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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back

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to another truth seeker special event we

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are continuing tonight

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in our series revisiting roswell

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uh i've always wanted to get to the

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bottom of this case

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and uh probably the reason why

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it's the most fascinating ufo related

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case to me

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is because of the volume of

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material that is available for it one

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sorry about the buzz we have uh

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i have an electric heater here because

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this room is freezing and it's 10

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degrees outside

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uh but i will turn it off for the

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benefit of better audio

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and uh yeah so that's where we're at

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um i have to admit that i did i have not

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checked in with our guests

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this evening earlier today i got very

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uh busy with another project but i have

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sent him the links

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and i believe he's seen them check gonna

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check

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uh facebook see if i have a message from

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him

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um no

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not yet so hopefully mr bosley will be

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along

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he's going to make an entrance you know

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he's going to build up the drama

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and the suspense either he doesn't

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you know have a watch no

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just bust his balls so uh listen

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uh this case roswell has fascinated me

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for so long because of the volume of

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of books of documentaries

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of interviews of people giving lectures

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about the research they have done

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into this incredible case

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in 1947. now

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so far in our series we first heard from

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don't want you to know about roswell

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extraterrestrial recovered spacecraft it

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i respect uh mr corp's research skills

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his certainly respect his passion for

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these subjects but i kind of disagreed

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with him and wanted to get another

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later people found somebody that was a

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i don't think that i'm sorry i'm reading

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i'm trying to multitask here somebody

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says revisiting roswell means that

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at what cal court has been shoveling

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good roswell is legit

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i'd like to go down all the rabbit holes

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honestly i have gone down every rabbit

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if there was a television special about

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bought it but after a while there's so

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viewpoints so many different people have

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case and it seems to me

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to be that the majority of the books

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documentaries etc all support the alien

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theory which is a good theory

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strange crazy metal that when you balled

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probability that so many people just

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directly profited from telling their

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truth about the actual roswell event

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children of roswell's by don schmidt

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i found it to be very very uh

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intriguing incredible because a lot of

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now friends please stand by i'm gonna

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try to check in with

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check in with our guest who's saying

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one second friends

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he's having a little bit of trouble

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getting his camera to work we're gonna

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see if we can't sort that out otherwise

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an avatar and he'll be audio

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um so either way that you can get it to

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okay let me see

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yeah i think mr bosley if you click

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allow cam access it should let you

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do the camera but if you just want to

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yeah we'll just do it that way

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i don't hear you mr bosley so apparently

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in a new tab and then click allow

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that or any phone i think we had issues

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uh with mr bosley not sure why that is

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but this

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is a live show and uh

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you get it warts and all friends uh and

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and really a lot of this is my fault i

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uh checked in with him earlier and made

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sure that everything was working sort of

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you know a few hours ago we could have

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tested it make sure that he had a good

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so back to roswell i think uh you know

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calculus perspective and stance that it

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actively testing nuclear weapons but

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uh then we have mr kevin randall dr

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kevin randle come on the show and his

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perspective is that it really might have

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stance he has researched the case for 30

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different take on it in that

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that it may have been secret nazi

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let's see if we can bossly

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can you hear me now i can hear you yeah

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yeah plugging in my headphones so that i

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and of course can you

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are you speaking yeah i am talking right

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now can you hear me

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shoot well this is a cluster

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f my thoughts exactly

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yeah i don't know what happened well i

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can uh

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for some reason i can i'm not hearing

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my headphones aren't aren't giving me

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any uh cooperation either so

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let me see if i can check your mic

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settings here i have echo cancellation

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how about now is that any better yes yes

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much better much much better all right i

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turned the echo cancellation off so you

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should be able to hear me a little bit

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better right now

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and i'm going to turn my microphone up

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uh to see maybe you'll be able to hear

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me

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yeah i think that'll do it can you hear

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hold on i'm gonna grab my earbuds so

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that i can get that

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extra bit of volume um sure

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i'm uh i'm plugging that in now maybe

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i'll help

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volume on hearing you i mean so

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yeah yeah and in the meantime i don't

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know how to what i understand is i last

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time i was

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either can you hear me yeah okay

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well and well i think i'm hearing you

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louder without trying to use headphones

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so

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yeah that'll be fine man i don't hear

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any echo of me

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so yeah now you're low again good lord

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isn't this a pain in the butt huh

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technology

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it's great until it doesn't work now

289
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you're low again

290
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i swear i don't know what the deal is

291
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yeah maybe we should go back to the

292
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original headphones where it was working

293
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i yeah it's it's

294
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hearing you let me try the headphones

295
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wow that's even worse i apologize i

296
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don't

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know what the deal is with why i'm not

298
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hearing you

299
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yeah i don't know i mean uh one second

300
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it's really low it's

301
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it's like yeah i don't know

302
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i i mean i'm like pegged uh walter like

303
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i'm i'm

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at the highest level that i could be so

305
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you should really hear me fine

306
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yeah it's got to be a hardware issue i

307
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might have to

308
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you got like a uh do you got like a

309
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scratchy or like uh

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now okay now it's working loudly yeah

311
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all right you've got a scratchy or or

312
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strange mic connection sometimes you

313
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just jiggle it a little bit

314
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and it'll go from low to layout but if

315
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it's loud now leave it don't mess with

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it

317
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any anyway you you just about gave me a

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heart attack a minute ago

319
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um no i do not think roswell was nazi

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technology

321
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oh i'm sorry all right well i thought no

322
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i i mean that you thought it could

323
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could have been oh well no what i have

324
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said is

325
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that um i i we're we're on air now right

326
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yeah we've been on air since nine

327
00:16:03,509 --> 00:16:01,120
o'clock it's 9 16.

328
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let's get started again sorry i'm

329
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busting your balls

330
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um i find that joseph farrell's roswell

331
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and the reich

332
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whether people like it or not is one of

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the

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it's i think it's

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for the hypothesis that he's presenting

336
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i think it's

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uh very well researched he goes into

338
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the kind of technology they were

339
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developing um during the war

340
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and and shows how that could be

341
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reflected and what we're told

342
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was um captured

343
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and uh however it's a book that gets

344
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ignored because you got a bunch of

345
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people in the et hypothesis

346
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community that just don't want to hear

347
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that it was anything but e.t

348
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you got me whatever you know uh get

349
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they and i'm putting air quotes around

350
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this they get tired of hearing about

351
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any you know possible nazi connection to

352
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things

353
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and then there's some people that just

354
00:17:04,949 --> 00:17:04,000
don't like joseph you know we got a lot

355
00:17:07,189 --> 00:17:04,959
of that in our community

356
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people it's personality clashes and

357
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things like that

358
00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:09,839
but well i don't know i don't know that

359
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i dislike him but i think that it's a

360
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little bit

361
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he's one of those characters that to me

362
00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:16,839
is a little bit

363
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uh controversial and and

364
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and makes me question his credibility

365
00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:23,280
some of the things

366
00:17:27,429 --> 00:17:24,720
well that's that's but but see that's

367
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yeah if you find if you find you know a

368
00:17:33,830 --> 00:17:32,080
researcher's stuff you know who's

369
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controversial or you have recent

370
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questions that's reasonable that's not

371
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what i'm talking about i'm

372
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usually when i defend roswell on the

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reich um

374
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it's because you know how many people

375
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that complain

376
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that i've heard either have a negative

377
00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:47,280
view of that book or even complain about

378
00:17:52,070 --> 00:17:49,360
it i asked them and to a man

379
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or a woman but to each one of them i say

380
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have you read the book no

381
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well you know come on even even i

382
00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:58,880
yeah i have to admit i haven't read i

383
00:18:01,669 --> 00:18:00,320
haven't read that book i have a couple

384
00:18:03,350 --> 00:18:01,679
of his other books though

385
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and i just mean some of the things i

386
00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:05,360
question is like i think that he

387
00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:08,640
uh is a doctor of theology

388
00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:11,280
yes yeah he got his phd from oxford

389
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which is

390
00:18:15,830 --> 00:18:14,160
legitimate oh of course it's legitimate

391
00:18:16,870 --> 00:18:15,840
but it's just like okay you're a doctor

392
00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:16,880
of theology

393
00:18:20,230 --> 00:18:18,400
but you're going to tell us all about

394
00:18:21,669 --> 00:18:20,240
the truth about ufos it just

395
00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:21,679
it doesn't line up to me i don't know

396
00:18:24,390 --> 00:18:22,720
maybe i'd grow up with too many

397
00:18:25,430 --> 00:18:24,400
ministers that were doctors

398
00:18:27,669 --> 00:18:25,440
do you know what i mean like i knew

399
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about oh yeah yeah he's

400
00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:29,760
he's not you know he no but isn't he

401
00:18:33,669 --> 00:18:31,520
he's in the in the in the like

402
00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:33,679
russian orthodox church isn't he no

403
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eastern

404
00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:40,799
which is almost like being in the

405
00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:43,039
freemasons it's a whole nother world

406
00:18:46,390 --> 00:18:43,360
right

407
00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:46,400
remember he walked away from it

408
00:18:49,909 --> 00:18:47,840
i didn't know that see i'm not fully

409
00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:49,919
informed on him i'm kind of like

410
00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:51,919
he's in my gray basket he's been in my

411
00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:53,600
gray basket for a long time

412
00:18:58,630 --> 00:18:56,720
yeah and and look that said la

413
00:19:01,430 --> 00:18:58,640
said you know about roswell and the

414
00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:01,440
reich i don't agree with him that it was

415
00:19:05,909 --> 00:19:04,240
it was a nazi craft now i'm i'm being a

416
00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:05,919
little bit tricky

417
00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:09,200
because i think it was um and we're

418
00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:10,559
jumping right into this i guess

419
00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:13,120
i think it was um i think it was

420
00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:15,360
america's first attempt at manned space

421
00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:16,160
flight

422
00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:19,440
and it was done with pay-per-clip nazi

423
00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:20,400
scientists that's

424
00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:23,840
it i'm sorry i missed you oh i'm just

425
00:19:26,789 --> 00:19:25,200
yeah you know it's been a long time

426
00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:26,799
since we talked and when you told me

427
00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:28,880
about that i went digging into what you

428
00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:30,400
were talking about with this

429
00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:33,280
and when jesus look at all these rocket

430
00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:35,200
scientists that came over from nazi

431
00:19:40,070 --> 00:19:36,960
germany to help with the space

432
00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:40,080
program and the rocket program this

433
00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:40,799
could be

434
00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:43,840
a really good theory based on a number

435
00:19:46,870 --> 00:19:44,720
of them there was

436
00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:46,880
hundred wasn't there hundreds of rocket

437
00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:47,840
scientists what

438
00:19:55,110 --> 00:19:49,840
vertebron braun is the most well known

439
00:19:58,470 --> 00:19:56,870
rocket scientists but here here's the

440
00:20:00,870 --> 00:19:58,480
thing everybody uh

441
00:20:01,830 --> 00:20:00,880
kind of gets diverted with uh most

442
00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:01,840
people

443
00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:03,840
and and you know i'm not being hyper

444
00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:05,840
critical here i'm just stating in fact

445
00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:07,440
most people when you talk about

446
00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:09,280
operation paperclip

447
00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:12,240
they think of oh that was all about the

448
00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:12,799
bomb

449
00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:15,760
that was all about um the rocket

450
00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:16,480
scientists

451
00:20:20,149 --> 00:20:18,640
actually operation paperclip when you

452
00:20:23,350 --> 00:20:20,159
look at the history of it

453
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:23,360
was originated by u.s army

454
00:20:28,149 --> 00:20:26,480
air corps aviation medicine scientists

455
00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:28,159
colonel harry armstrong being the leader

456
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:31,280
of it working with the german

457
00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:34,159
aviation medicine scientists that was

458
00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:36,080
the actual origin

459
00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:39,280
of operation paperclip and these are the

460
00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:41,360
guys who originated it and of course it

461
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:42,080
was smart

462
00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:43,919
well shoot if we can bring in these guys

463
00:20:48,149 --> 00:20:45,280
we can bring in the the

464
00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:48,159
nuclear you know the atomic scientists

465
00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:49,440
we can bring in

466
00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:52,000
you know um you know whoever the rocket

467
00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:52,559
guys

468
00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:55,840
and such um so it really originated with

469
00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:56,799
the guys who

470
00:21:00,630 --> 00:20:59,039
dating back to the 1920s had been

471
00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:00,640
wanting to put man in space

472
00:21:05,029 --> 00:21:02,640
so then you get all these these guys

473
00:21:06,870 --> 00:21:05,039
together aviation medicine guys rockets

474
00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:06,880
engineers and such you get them in the

475
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:09,039
same place at the same time

476
00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:11,919
with a bunch of secrecy a lot of money

477
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,919
what do you think they're going to try

478
00:21:18,549 --> 00:21:15,840
i argue that they're gonna try putting

479
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:18,559
men in space and i think that's what

480
00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:21,280
what we've come to popularly call the

481
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:22,960
roswell incident

482
00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:25,280
i think that's really the secret nugget

483
00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:27,280
and i've and i've put a fine point on

484
00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:28,960
that um since then which i'm sure we'll

485
00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:30,000
get into

486
00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:33,440
but um it it i think and i listened to

487
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:36,159
um your the i listened to the calc

488
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:37,679
episode in this discussion and i

489
00:21:41,110 --> 00:21:39,520
listened to kevin randles and there's a

490
00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:41,120
lot those guys say that both of them

491
00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:42,240
that i agree with

492
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:45,280
there's a little that i disagree with

493
00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:48,400
but here's what i think i do think

494
00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:51,600
that the famous stuff involving mac

495
00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:53,919
brazil and major marcel and the debris

496
00:21:57,909 --> 00:21:54,720
and all this stuff

497
00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:57,919
i think that was what the air force told

498
00:22:01,750 --> 00:21:59,280
us it was that it was

499
00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:01,760
balloon target balloon stuff and and

500
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:03,280
mogul balloon stuff

501
00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:06,799
blah blah blah all that um i don't think

502
00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:08,960
there was a crash of a craft

503
00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:11,840
um that was involved in that debris that

504
00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:13,840
brazel and then brought in

505
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:17,120
what i do think is that there was a

506
00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:17,760
crash

507
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:19,919
incident where there were you know

508
00:22:23,110 --> 00:22:21,120
bodies retrieved and

509
00:22:24,390 --> 00:22:23,120
there was a crash and stuff and i think

510
00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:24,400
the the thread that

511
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:26,080
might connect the two and i think it was

512
00:22:29,830 --> 00:22:27,760
around the same time

513
00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:29,840
you know i think the thread that might

514
00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:30,799
connect the two

515
00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:33,840
is that the mogul balloon might have had

516
00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:34,960
something to do

517
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:37,840
with the crash of the craft but i think

518
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:39,039
the craft was

519
00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:41,840
america's first attempt at manned

520
00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:43,520
spaceflight and i go into that

521
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:45,520
why how i think that and why and how it

522
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:47,120
would work in my book shimmering light

523
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:47,919
of course

524
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:50,880
but um that that's what i and i think

525
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:52,400
they used

526
00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:55,600
the the brazil thing and and the marcel

527
00:22:59,430 --> 00:22:57,440
thing with the debris stuff i think the

528
00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:59,440
army air corps used that

529
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:01,280
to you know while they were scrambling

530
00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:03,360
use that and the alien

531
00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:06,799
you know flying saucer idea to cover up

532
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:09,440
this first attempt at manned space

533
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:10,799
flight now why would they go to such

534
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:12,000
lengths to cover that up

535
00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:14,240
because it was 1947 it was right after

536
00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:15,200
world war ii

537
00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:17,200
it was the beginning of the cold war if

538
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:18,960
if we're going to make the first attempt

539
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:20,400
to put man in space we don't want

540
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:22,559
anyone outside the people working on to

541
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:24,960
know that and they would rather

542
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:26,960
yes yes i'm saying this there's going to

543
00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:28,640
be somebody out there saying that's not

544
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:30,559
logical well whatever

545
00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:34,080
but yes i say that they would have

546
00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:36,880
even preferred people to to believe in a

547
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:39,440
flying saucer story before admitting

548
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:42,640
that it was uh our first attempt at

549
00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:43,760
man's space flight

550
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:45,760
within the context of the time that was

551
00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:47,279
the best i'm sure that rather people

552
00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:47,840
just

553
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:49,919
chasing shadows of aliens that don't

554
00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:51,440
exist right then

555
00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:53,760
exactly what they were really working on

556
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,799
one of the uh

557
00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:56,640
let me caveat at the end of that which

558
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:57,760
you know a lot of people in our

559
00:24:03,029 --> 00:23:59,039
community don't do

560
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:03,039
i could be wrong imagine that

561
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:04,320
you know one of the things that i think

562
00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:07,039
supports your theory however is this

563
00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:10,480
for people that don't know these these

564
00:24:16,630 --> 00:24:13,520
aviation medical uh nazis

565
00:24:17,669 --> 00:24:16,640
were doing like horrific experiments on

566
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:17,679
people

567
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:20,000
yeah pre-world war ii or during world

568
00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:21,520
war ii to see what would happen

569
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:23,039
if you shot somebody in the space like

570
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:24,640
they were putting people in vacuum

571
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:25,600
chambers and stuff

572
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:28,159
altitude chambers my dad saw those films

573
00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:29,760
as part of his training

574
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:32,159
he had to watch he and the other guys if

575
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:32,880
if you were

576
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:34,240
in the u.s air force and you were

577
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:36,080
working in altitude chambers aviation

578
00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:37,440
medicine division of the air force which

579
00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:38,559
my dad was in

580
00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:42,320
um you had to you you watched those nazi

581
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:43,039
films that

582
00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:45,440
uh i believe hubertus struggled was

583
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:46,480
involved with that

584
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:49,039
and they would put um they would put

585
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,520
people

586
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:51,279
inside altitude chambers without a

587
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:52,960
pressure suit and crank that thing up

588
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:53,520
and

589
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:56,240
uh see how long before they die right

590
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:57,760
yeah just to see how long before they

591
00:25:03,110 --> 00:24:58,320
die

592
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:03,120
such and here's the thing

593
00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:06,000
yes i mean we would never do that but

594
00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:08,000
yeah they had the guys watch it

595
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:10,799
because i hate to say it's already done

596
00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:11,279
yeah

597
00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:12,960
it was already done and there was

598
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:14,880
valuable data in there but it was

599
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:17,440
kind of a hideous thing obviously you

600
00:25:21,990 --> 00:25:18,480
know one thought i

601
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:22,000
i had as well is i'm not sure what

602
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:24,320
when do you have any idea when the

603
00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:25,200
united states

604
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:27,279
and their rocket program started using

605
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:29,440
monkeys

606
00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:32,320
um i think that was in the late 50s you

607
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:33,679
got to understand the u.s

608
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:35,679
manned space program was all in the

609
00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:37,679
hands of the united states air force

610
00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:38,720
with some navy

611
00:25:42,549 --> 00:25:40,960
cooperation but primarily the united

612
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:42,559
states air force aviation medicine

613
00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:45,200
division until october of 1958 when

614
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:48,080
nasa was stood up and took over the

615
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:49,679
mercury program

616
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:52,480
so anything that was done prior to

617
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:55,120
october 1958 was u.s air force but i i

618
00:25:58,470 --> 00:25:56,559
believe they started

619
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:58,480
i think they started doing the monkey

620
00:26:01,830 --> 00:26:00,080
stuff either

621
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:01,840
right before nasa took over but

622
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:03,919
definitely when nasa took over so we're

623
00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:04,640
talking

624
00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:08,000
58 59 60 times wow but you know what you

625
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:09,600
know what i was thinking is what if they

626
00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:11,440
started using monkeys much much

627
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:13,520
earlier than they publicly acknowledged

628
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:14,960
in rocket tests

629
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:18,000
and what if what crash at roswell was

630
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:20,559
you know a rocket test with a monkey and

631
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:22,559
that's where the stories of the bodies

632
00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:25,039
come from that's what's all three foot

633
00:26:27,990 --> 00:26:25,600
tall

634
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:28,000
could be could be balloons could be a

635
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:30,400
lot of different monkeys and if they got

636
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:32,400
if they went down in a fiery rocket

637
00:26:36,789 --> 00:26:33,600
crash

638
00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:36,799
and were burnt you know or yeah the air

639
00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:44,230
these monkeys are smaller than we are

640
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:46,000
that would explain you know oh they were

641
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:46,720
small

642
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:49,200
um but uh you know whatever the case

643
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:50,400
yeah i reiterate

644
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:53,360
i in no way think roswell was an e.t

645
00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:55,039
event whatsoever

646
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:57,360
well you're breaking my roswell bubble

647
00:27:02,070 --> 00:26:58,240
uh or

648
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:02,080
i should say breaking my roswell balloon

649
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:04,799
but listen i don't care what the truth

650
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:05,200
is

651
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:07,520
i i just want to know sure if it was

652
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:08,320
aliens

653
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:11,039
great i'd be i'd be so happy to find out

654
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:12,640
that it was really aliens it would be so

655
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:13,760
cool

656
00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:15,840
you know tell us we are not alone in the

657
00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:17,600
universe and the philosophical

658
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:19,120
implications and the religious

659
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:20,000
implications

660
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:24,320
knowing there's other intelligent life

661
00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:27,039
out there capable of traveling to stars

662
00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:29,679
would be amazing but i want to know the

663
00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:30,159
truth

664
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:32,559
if that's all horseshit okay it's

665
00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:33,600
horseshit what

666
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:35,679
was it i don't believe it was just a

667
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:36,720
mogul balloon

668
00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:39,279
it's just there's too much there's too

669
00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:41,200
many people telling stories about

670
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:44,880
aliens and crazy well remember i think

671
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:46,960
my qualification is i think the mac

672
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:49,200
brazil major marcel stuff

673
00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:52,000
was a mogul balloon um i think other

674
00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:53,919
things got out about

675
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:55,919
what i think was there were two events

676
00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:57,200
when and and they

677
00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:59,679
logically speaking they one might have

678
00:28:01,669 --> 00:28:01,120
caused the other there might have been a

679
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:01,679
causal

680
00:28:08,549 --> 00:28:05,520
connection there and i i think that um

681
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:08,559
i think the the popular story

682
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:10,799
was the balloon stuff i think the part

683
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,080
were not being told

684
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:14,559
you know how um people who research it

685
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:15,120
randall

686
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:18,000
cal and everyone you find out that okay

687
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:19,600
there's a story about a crash that

688
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:21,520
wasn't in roswell but it was in new

689
00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:22,640
mexico

690
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:24,399
and you know i think what's happening is

691
00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:26,000
whatever the nugget is

692
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:28,000
right i think there's a crash with i

693
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:29,200
think there is a

694
00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:31,679
spacecraft crash and i think bodies were

695
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:32,559
recovered

696
00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:34,399
but i think whatever the nugget of truth

697
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:35,919
is to that over the years it got

698
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:37,200
conflated

699
00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:39,840
to where it's like multiple stories or

700
00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:41,360
are possible

701
00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:43,360
separated from the mack brazil major

702
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:44,480
marcel version

703
00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:48,000
of those events yeah i always found it

704
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:49,520
interesting that these

705
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:52,240
the second crash site sort of got tacked

706
00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:54,000
on to the original story the original

707
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:56,000
story was a crash

708
00:29:00,070 --> 00:28:58,720
later researchers started digging deeper

709
00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:00,080
and claiming that there was a second

710
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:01,919
crash site some of them even said that

711
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:02,480
the

712
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:05,120
second crash site had an almost intact

713
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:06,080
craft with

714
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:09,279
alien bodies which is a crazy

715
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:11,200
part of the story but it's interesting

716
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:12,799
to see how these things get weaved

717
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:15,360
in and out and and together and and

718
00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:16,880
maybe you're right there's multiple

719
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:18,799
stories here that are being conflated as

720
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:19,760
one

721
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:25,430
you know your theory would also explain

722
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:28,399
the debris switch controversy because

723
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:30,320
let's say for example it was a rocket

724
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:31,679
test

725
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:33,360
they would not want everybody to know

726
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:35,039
that they were doing these rocket space

727
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:36,320
tests so they would switch out the

728
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:37,520
material and and

729
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:39,520
show you how it was and remember i don't

730
00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:40,720
think the craft was

731
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:42,559
you know necessarily i don't think they

732
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,320
just took a v2 rocket

733
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:46,559
rigged it up for you know a human crew

734
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:47,840
and then just shot a rocket

735
00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:50,399
i think this might have been a a craft

736
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:51,440
that um

737
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:53,279
was similar to the kinds of things they

738
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:55,440
were doing in the early development that

739
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:57,039
led to the space shuttle like you know

740
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:58,240
that i can't remember

741
00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:00,080
off the top of my head that one craft

742
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:01,600
that's a one pilot

743
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:03,679
thing that it's got it's small it's

744
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:05,279
silver it's got those little stubby

745
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:06,320
wings and

746
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:09,440
and it looks almost kind of like a uh

747
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:11,919
in the x-15 family that kind of thing it

748
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:13,440
could very well have been something like

749
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,840
that

750
00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:15,760
not exactly i was i was going to ask you

751
00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:17,679
what do you think if maybe it was one of

752
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:19,679
the flying wings or a reconstruction of

753
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:20,000
one

754
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:22,880
or something like that yeah yeah it

755
00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:24,240
could have been something along those

756
00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:24,880
lines

757
00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:26,480
um not i don't think it was a

758
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,799
traditional rocket looking craft i i

759
00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:30,240
think they were already

760
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:32,480
you know they were thinking the space

761
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:33,919
shuttle is not something that they just

762
00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:35,679
came up with in the 70s the space

763
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:36,080
shuttle

764
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:38,080
was a concept they had been working on

765
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:40,240
from the beginning the idea of the space

766
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:41,279
plane

767
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:42,960
and that's what the shuttle was the

768
00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:44,640
first working

769
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:47,600
stage of the space plane and so this

770
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:48,240
would have been

771
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:51,039
something i think um along those lines

772
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:51,360
which

773
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:54,480
would explain um you know the stories we

774
00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:55,840
hear about it being

775
00:31:00,710 --> 00:30:59,120
kind of a triangular or manta ray

776
00:31:02,149 --> 00:31:00,720
yeah i was going to say that many of the

777
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:02,159
descriptions of the craft

778
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:05,440
said that i i asked freeman about this

779
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:07,039
and stan friedman said no no

780
00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:09,120
it was it was a saucer-shaped craft but

781
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:11,200
many many other people said no

782
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:13,679
it was a manta shaped craft sort of like

783
00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:15,519
a very futuristic

784
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:17,840
flying wing design and if we look at

785
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:20,559
this horton brothers jet flying wing

786
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:23,440
right that's pretty dead on a manta

787
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:24,480
shaped craft

788
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:27,279
or included also dead on it could be

789
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:30,240
mistaken as a flying saucer easily

790
00:31:33,909 --> 00:31:32,399
i mean you know sure got that sort of

791
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:33,919
profile and here's some other flying

792
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:35,039
wing designs but

793
00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:37,519
this all originated with the nazis

794
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:39,679
horton brothers flying wing and did

795
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:42,240
we recover two of them right they were

796
00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:42,880
in pieces

797
00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:44,799
but we recovered two of them at the end

798
00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:46,720
of world war ii i think we recovered two

799
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:47,840
of them and if um

800
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:49,840
i'm not mistaken did i did the horton

801
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:52,000
brothers they showed up in south america

802
00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:52,799
or did they never

803
00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:55,360
yeah no they went to south america a lot

804
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:56,480
of people say

805
00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:59,120
explains all the south america ufo there

806
00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:01,519
was a ufo flap after world war ii of

807
00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:02,240
many

808
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:04,399
people citing flying saucers in in

809
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:05,440
argentina

810
00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:06,799
and a lot of people think it might have

811
00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:08,880
been yeah and here's we see they got it

812
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:11,679
in pieces so here's pieces of the craft

813
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:15,120
they got it in pieces and uh

814
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:17,519
you know i i have long thought that

815
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:20,159
maybe we got these prototypes in pieces

816
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:22,240
pulled them all apart and built our own

817
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:24,640
and that could very well explain

818
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,080
look at that dead on that could look

819
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:28,399
like a flying saucer dead on right

820
00:32:31,669 --> 00:32:30,559
it could it could yes certainly because

821
00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:31,679
think about the the

822
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:34,080
the common airplanes or jet aircraft

823
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:35,760
that when you look at them at different

824
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:36,960
angles you could see why

825
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:38,640
you know in a split second you know just

826
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:40,000
a couple of seconds looking at something

827
00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:41,600
people might confuse it for a

828
00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:43,600
traditional flying saucer so yeah sure

829
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:45,600
here's some other here's some other

830
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:48,320
i'm trying to remember which um if it

831
00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:49,440
was schreiber

832
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:52,399
or if it was walter schreiber or if it

833
00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:52,880
was

834
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:56,000
hubertus stroghold one of them um

835
00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:58,799
when the uh truth came out about the

836
00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:00,399
kind of heinous things that they had

837
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:01,120
done

838
00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:03,039
you know under nazi germany and it got

839
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:04,480
out in the american press

840
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:06,320
in the 50s a lot of a lot of people

841
00:33:10,149 --> 00:33:07,840
don't hear this part of the story

842
00:33:11,909 --> 00:33:10,159
but it got out in the american press and

843
00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:11,919
it embarrassed the air force the air

844
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:13,120
force was when the

845
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:14,960
upper command you know really found out

846
00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:16,640
the details it's like these guys did

847
00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:17,120
what

848
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,720
you know there was one of them it was

849
00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:20,320
like a schreiber struggle i'd have to

850
00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:21,440
look in my book

851
00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:24,399
um who when they when the u.s said we're

852
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:25,519
done with you

853
00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:26,880
you're we're not working with you

854
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:28,640
anymore you're leaving the country the

855
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:30,640
arrangement they made

856
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:33,360
was to get him to south america and i

857
00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:34,559
found that interesting they didn't

858
00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:36,799
return him to post-war germany

859
00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:38,799
they arranged to have him go to south

860
00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:40,960
america

861
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:43,919
yeah that's interesting and you know i

862
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:44,799
find that whole

863
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:47,760
exodus of the nazis into argentina like

864
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:49,120
to this people don't know this but to

865
00:33:53,669 --> 00:33:51,039
this day in argentina

866
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:53,679
there's like a town full of german

867
00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:54,240
people

868
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:56,240
and they're all nazi descendants they're

869
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:58,240
all descendants of the nazis that fled

870
00:34:02,310 --> 00:33:58,880
world war

871
00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:02,320
ii and somehow ended up in argentina i

872
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:04,399
believe the dictator was very

873
00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:06,960
he was like a fan of hitler and and like

874
00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:08,240
well juan peron

875
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:11,119
oh my gosh yeah evita's husband was you

876
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:13,679
know a friend of the nazi

877
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:16,240
yeah so he would be okay apparently he

878
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:17,200
would

879
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:19,919
colonia dignidad yeah apparently he was

880
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:20,960
perfectly okay with

881
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:23,520
offering them a safe haven away from the

882
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:24,879
allied powers

883
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:28,560
and san carlos de bariloche in chile

884
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:30,800
was long it was established in the 19th

885
00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:32,000
century as a

886
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:35,040
german community and that's why it

887
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:37,280
naturally became a safe haven for the

888
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:39,359
nazis in the 20th century because

889
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:40,720
you know they've been down there almost

890
00:34:46,149 --> 00:34:43,520
100 years

891
00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:46,159
yeah and it's that whole thing about you

892
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:48,159
know i'd also like to believe in nazi

893
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:50,800
flying saucers too

894
00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:53,200
i know pharrell's books has got a lot of

895
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:54,480
that stuff in there but we

896
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:57,599
sort of picked he's he's opposed to the

897
00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:58,079
uh

898
00:35:01,109 --> 00:35:00,240
the hanabu and the nazi saucer he does

899
00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:01,119
not believe

900
00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:03,440
and he stated it numerous times he he

901
00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:04,960
does not believe that they

902
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:06,800
this this hanabu thing can be traced

903
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:08,960
back to a post-war

904
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,000
um italian um uh

905
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:14,640
rag paper pro fascist yeah journalist

906
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:16,000
guy so to speak

907
00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:18,720
and it was it was nazi survival myth

908
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,839
type crap

909
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:21,599
and i you don't know how many times i

910
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:23,760
get into these people want to argue

911
00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:24,720
they talk about what about the

912
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:26,960
blueprints and it's like that's it's all

913
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:29,680
bs that's been fabricated since after

914
00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:31,599
the war the flying saucer thing what

915
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:32,000
what

916
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:36,560
of you know this thing called the bell

917
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:39,760
which is a rudimentary technology that

918
00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:41,760
they were trying to develop

919
00:35:46,069 --> 00:35:44,720
that we probably got a hold of and you

920
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:46,079
know we took it from there but the

921
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:47,280
hanabu thing

922
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:48,640
no i i don't think there's any

923
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:50,320
credibility to that at all it's

924
00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:52,240
yeah and by the way people spun up over

925
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,839
there about the blueprints

926
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:55,680
i was so curious and wanted to know for

927
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:56,880
sure uh

928
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:58,800
that i had a friend of a friend of a

929
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:00,720
friend long story short

930
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:04,079
who like designed aircraft

931
00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:06,800
small aircraft but designed aircraft so

932
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:08,720
i thought this is a good chance

933
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:10,640
so i sent him i emailed them to him and

934
00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:12,480
i said would this work would this thing

935
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:13,040
fly

936
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:15,040
and he sent me back a message basically

937
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,720
saying like there's no details about the

938
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:18,560
propulsion system and these plans

939
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:20,560
it's just basic structural plans of how

940
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:23,200
to build a saucer-shaped

941
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:26,160
thing thing there's nothing in there in

942
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:26,800
there

943
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:29,280
to indicate what the propulsion system

944
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:30,960
was or how it would work

945
00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:32,720
to keep the thing alive well the true

946
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:34,480
believers answer that by saying oh it's

947
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:36,000
anti-gravity

948
00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:38,560
yeah but you've got to show it you can

949
00:36:43,030 --> 00:36:39,359
just show it

950
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:43,040
not just say it anybody can say yeah

951
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:45,599
it's uh it's magic unicorns that make it

952
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:46,640
fly

953
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:49,119
walter bosley and what a dapper picture

954
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:50,160
look at it he looks so

955
00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:53,280
dapper in this picture which picture

956
00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:54,880
i i don't know it's uh you got like a

957
00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:56,320
brown suit coat on

958
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:02,550
you sent me a couple i believe i was

959
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:03,359
pissed off

960
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:06,000
um i i was going to be speaking at an

961
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:06,480
event

962
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:10,320
several photos that he just kept

963
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:11,760
complaining not good enough not good

964
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:12,400
enough

965
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:15,680
so my kid number two i call her um she

966
00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:18,000
she said come out in the hall stand in

967
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:19,599
front of the plane wall and i put your

968
00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:21,520
jacket on i'll take a new picture

969
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:24,000
so we took a new photo and he loved that

970
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:24,960
one and

971
00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,200
um so i am kind of pissed in that photo

972
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:29,200
but i ended up liking it so much that

973
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:30,800
i've started to use it on some book

974
00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:33,200
covers

975
00:37:38,069 --> 00:37:36,480
there you go yeah so so the other thing

976
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:38,079
i wanted to ask you about then

977
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:40,720
we've covered this honey boo and uh we

978
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:42,560
did something on victor schauberger's

979
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:43,440
repulsion

980
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:45,359
engine do you know much about that

981
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:46,800
because i found that to be a complete

982
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:49,440
and total disappointing bust

983
00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:51,440
nothing there's nothing to that story

984
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:53,599
it's the non-working prototype of like

985
00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:55,200
some dude had an idea

986
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:56,960
you know we slapped this thing together

987
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:59,040
but nobody's ever even with the whole

988
00:38:02,069 --> 00:38:00,400
device

989
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:02,079
like how put off studied and he was like

990
00:38:06,069 --> 00:38:03,520
well we're missing a part

991
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:06,079
that's probably why it won't fly or you

992
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:08,000
know it just wasn't a big letdown

993
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:09,440
when you go to actually make the thing

994
00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:12,160
work was that just another smoke screen

995
00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:14,480
i well i it could have been used as a

996
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:16,480
smoke screen i think schauberger was you

997
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:18,320
know serious about his research

998
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:21,680
i think what it is is people recognize

999
00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:24,000
that the principle there's something

1000
00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:27,200
there that if they can figure out how to

1001
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:30,240
translate the principle into a practical

1002
00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:31,599
propulsion system

1003
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:33,200
that it might be pretty interesting it

1004
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,960
might work you know

1005
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:36,720
but yeah you're right when you look at

1006
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:38,960
schauburger you end up finding out well

1007
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:41,200
you know unless unless you want to go

1008
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:43,040
everything's a conspiracy theory

1009
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:44,960
just like these days the popular thing

1010
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:46,560
is everything's a psyop

1011
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:48,800
um which is ridiculous uh that

1012
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:49,920
everything is but

1013
00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:51,760
um you know i can't lie though i have

1014
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:54,000
that i have i have one of these honeyboo

1015
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:56,240
uh model kits i've never oh you do i

1016
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:58,000
want one but it's in a box yeah they're

1017
00:39:01,109 --> 00:38:59,440
on ebay you can still get them they're

1018
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:01,119
like 20 30 bucks or something really

1019
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,320
only that much okay

1020
00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:04,320
or no maybe more now they're going up in

1021
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:05,839
price because yeah i know i

1022
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:07,760
yeah collector's item now because it's

1023
00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:08,880
cool you know

1024
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:12,320
just like just like the the uh

1025
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:14,320
the thing i don't know no testers came

1026
00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:16,000
out with a roswell model

1027
00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:18,160
but um i don't know who it was ravel or

1028
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:19,839
whatever came out with the bob lazar

1029
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:21,599
sport model you flying saucer

1030
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:23,920
i had that i built that and yeah that

1031
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:26,079
was tester's model corporation and it's

1032
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:27,359
so funny

1033
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:29,680
yeah i had a call i had to call their

1034
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:31,760
parent company which is rust-oleum now

1035
00:39:35,270 --> 00:39:32,880
the paint company

1036
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:35,280
yeah and try to ask them how much money

1037
00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:36,960
they paid bob lazar

1038
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:39,040
and they're the guy that works at the

1039
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:40,000
company was like

1040
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:42,240
why are you asking me this and i'm like

1041
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:43,599
because bob lazar

1042
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:45,440
said he never made any money so i wanted

1043
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:47,040
to know how much you paid him for all

1044
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:48,960
those models you sold and that guy never

1045
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:50,960
got back to me and then yeah we're

1046
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:53,040
we're jerk offs here walter bosley that

1047
00:39:55,030 --> 00:39:54,640
guy was so nasty to me you know what i

1048
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:55,040
did

1049
00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:56,800
we put his phone we put his phone number

1050
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:58,560
live on the show everybody's

1051
00:40:01,990 --> 00:40:00,240
everybody started calling i'm asking him

1052
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,000
how much money bob lazar made

1053
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:04,400
well you know i i displayed a copy of

1054
00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:06,000
that model on my desk

1055
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:09,680
when i was an osi agent that's funny

1056
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:11,280
that's the other problem that was on my

1057
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:11,760
desk

1058
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:14,480
um but yeah the models are cool but

1059
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:16,240
there's nothing to the stories

1060
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:19,440
you know i mean hanabu is made up

1061
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:22,480
you know it's like hopium though right

1062
00:40:25,829 --> 00:40:24,720
for believers in ufos like look you have

1063
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:25,839
this thing and

1064
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:28,319
they've already built it right you know

1065
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:30,000
and then the stories get deeper though

1066
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:31,680
don't they like the nazis were in

1067
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:33,440
contact with aliens that helped them

1068
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:34,880
build this stuff

1069
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:36,640
you know if you go yeah further down the

1070
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:38,800
rabbit hole i don't buy that either you

1071
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:39,280
know

1072
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:43,040
and all it takes is some serious honest

1073
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,680
um and objective you know when i say

1074
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:48,000
being honest being honest with yourself

1075
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:50,000
uh research and just looking at the

1076
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:51,280
stuff and it

1077
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:54,079
falls apart pretty quickly um but you're

1078
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:54,880
right people

1079
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:57,040
people want something fantastic to

1080
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:58,000
believe in

1081
00:41:01,670 --> 00:40:59,760
and it's not that there's not fantastic

1082
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:01,680
things people hear what i've been saying

1083
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:03,520
so far in the first what 20

1084
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:04,800
30 minutes or whatever we've been

1085
00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:06,880
talking that they think oh well then

1086
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:08,720
therefore this is the popular thing

1087
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:09,599
these days too

1088
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:11,520
therefore you don't believe et's exist

1089
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:13,920
i'm like oh on the contrary i

1090
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:16,079
totally think they exist yeah i mean i

1091
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:17,520
think you can believe that there's

1092
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:19,200
life on other planets and just not

1093
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,119
believe in any bs

1094
00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:23,280
well i'd like to see i think some have

1095
00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:24,720
come here and continue to come here

1096
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:26,400
here's what i hear here's stephen

1097
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:28,640
here's the number i give people they

1098
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:30,640
people have heard me say over the years

1099
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:34,079
that i think 90 of legitimate ufo

1100
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:35,520
sightings and what i mean by legitimate

1101
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:36,960
are the ones that just aren't lies

1102
00:41:40,230 --> 00:41:38,240
because some people want to be part of

1103
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:40,240
the funds so they make up crap and claim

1104
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:41,280
they saw a ufo

1105
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:43,200
i'm talking about the legitimate

1106
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:44,960
sightings that people have reported

1107
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:48,400
that say hey i saw a ufo i think that 90

1108
00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:50,240
percent

1109
00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:53,680
um william pixley there there was no

1110
00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:56,720
hanabu program sorry it's all [\h__\h]

1111
00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:58,319
yeah there's photos that doesn't mean

1112
00:42:00,710 --> 00:42:00,240
there was actual crap yeah those photos

1113
00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:00,720
come on

1114
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,800
those photos and i've actually talked to

1115
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:04,720
just just for the benefit of the doubt

1116
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:06,480
william pixley i've actually talked to

1117
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:08,079
somebody who faked

1118
00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:10,160
some honeyboo photos and what he did was

1119
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:11,520
he did a

1120
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:14,160
3d model of the honeyboo craft and then

1121
00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:14,720
he took

1122
00:42:18,309 --> 00:42:17,680
an image from actual world war ii nazi

1123
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:18,319
germany

1124
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:21,119
of like people walking around working on

1125
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:22,000
aircraft

1126
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:25,200
and then and then he put his fake into

1127
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:26,000
the photo

1128
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:29,680
gray you know agent whatever

1129
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:32,160
photos can be especially today anybody

1130
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:32,960
can manipulate

1131
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:36,000
photos you know and mister mr buzzy he

1132
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:37,280
also mentioned that

1133
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:38,720
you don't have any proof for your

1134
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:40,240
theories and so these are all just

1135
00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:41,760
theories and i don't think they're

1136
00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:43,760
saying this is exactly what happened

1137
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,599
we're just talking about possibilities

1138
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:48,000
yeah i i oh okay i get it there's

1139
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:49,280
because yeah there's always somebody

1140
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,880
that's gonna where's your pro

1141
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,480
evidence it's like how many times do i

1142
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,480
have to say hypothesis how many times do

1143
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:56,000
i have to say i could be wrong

1144
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:57,599
before i don't think he meant it but i

1145
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:00,400
don't think he meant it like nastily

1146
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:02,640
dig deeper and see if you had more yeah

1147
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:04,480
i didn't see anyone say that i'm just

1148
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:05,040
saying

1149
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:07,520
i get that you know sometimes i get the

1150
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:08,079
the

1151
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:09,520
folks that you know well you don't have

1152
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:11,200
any proof i'm like okay how many times i

1153
00:43:14,470 --> 00:43:12,720
have to say it's a hypothesis and i

1154
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:14,480
think and it's a speculation

1155
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:16,480
but anyway let me going back to what i'm

1156
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:18,560
saying about i think 90

1157
00:43:25,109 --> 00:43:21,920
of legitimate ufo reports are

1158
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:25,119
um are classified human

1159
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:29,200
technology okay that leaves that leaves

1160
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:32,720
a 10 margin in which i think et

1161
00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:35,760
ufos fit in that 10 i don't think et

1162
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:37,839
ufos make up that 10

1163
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:41,920
remaining 10 okay but let's say they do

1164
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:44,720
let's say et ufos so people say well

1165
00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:46,720
gosh darn you're spoiling our fun walter

1166
00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:48,079
with numbers like that i'm like no i'm

1167
00:43:52,829 --> 00:43:48,640
not

1168
00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:52,839
imagine if there were 500 ufo reports

1169
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:55,920
okay and that means

1170
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:59,200
10 percent would be 50 that could be

1171
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:00,240
extraterrestrial

1172
00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:03,040
and think about it you only need one to

1173
00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:03,680
prove

1174
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:06,800
the extra the eth and i

1175
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:09,839
i think within that remaining 10 there's

1176
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:11,359
a certain percentage that are

1177
00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:14,240
et craft so you don't need all of the

1178
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:16,079
reports to be et

1179
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:18,640
you only need one really but i think you

1180
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,160
have more than one so i

1181
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:22,480
very much think that et's exist and that

1182
00:44:25,990 --> 00:44:24,000
they have and they continue

1183
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:26,000
you know to to come to this planet i

1184
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:27,359
just

1185
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:31,920
of people are seeing a lot of human

1186
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:33,920
technology too

1187
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:36,560
you know i i have this theory called the

1188
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:36,960
the

1189
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:45,359
are seeing are

1190
00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:48,720
our top secret black project craft yeah

1191
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:51,200
i would explain an awful lot and uh the

1192
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:53,599
government has been literally caught

1193
00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:56,000
pumping communities full of fake stories

1194
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:57,520
about aliens and ufos

1195
00:45:01,349 --> 00:45:00,720
to cover their drone projects for

1196
00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:01,359
example

1197
00:45:05,349 --> 00:45:04,240
the famous case uh paul benowitz he was

1198
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,359
seeing

1199
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:07,920
early drones back in the early 80s

1200
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,560
before

1201
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:10,560
anybody knew what a drone was the

1202
00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:12,400
government was experimenting with them

1203
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:14,319
he was seeing them they sent richard

1204
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:16,000
doty out to go and uh

1205
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:17,680
muddy the waters and convince them those

1206
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:19,119
were aliens and

1207
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:22,319
flying saucers that he was seeing right

1208
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:24,000
when it's useful to the government they

1209
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:26,240
use the alien stories to cover their

1210
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:27,040
tracks

1211
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:29,520
you're okay you said dodie with benowitz

1212
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:30,240
right

1213
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:38,550
sooner than people realize dodie kind of

1214
00:45:41,109 --> 00:45:40,000
i guess you'd say came clean with

1215
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:41,119
benowitz he and

1216
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:43,359
and bill moore also and we're telling

1217
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:44,640
him hey this is not

1218
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:46,240
you know when when it looked like it was

1219
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:48,319
causing some serious problems

1220
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:50,960
my personal opinion of that scenario is

1221
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:53,119
the culprit and that was the nsa

1222
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:55,440
because remember the nsa was involved

1223
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:57,760
here and the nsa was doing some tech

1224
00:46:01,670 --> 00:45:58,640
stuff and

1225
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:01,680
and i think some of the phenomena that

1226
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:05,040
um benowitz was experiencing that he was

1227
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:06,960
kind of exaggerating into aliens

1228
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:08,800
i i think that was the nsa screwing with

1229
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:10,000
him i see

1230
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:13,119
the nsa as the real the ultimately the

1231
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:16,240
the worst culprit in the benowitz case

1232
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:19,359
now that said i don't

1233
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:21,599
know richard doty i've had a private

1234
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:22,800
conversation with him

1235
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:25,760
once in text like two years ago or

1236
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:26,640
something

1237
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,760
um when i was in the air force osi

1238
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:31,440
the first time i ever heard about him

1239
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:34,000
was then and this was in 94

1240
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:37,040
94 95 and he was presented to me as a

1241
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:38,400
cautionary tale

1242
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:45,109
you know so yeah he's an interesting

1243
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:45,760
character

1244
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:48,400
in that he's somehow involved in an

1245
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:50,400
awful lot of these stories

1246
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:53,839
yeah and and from serpo to mj12

1247
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:57,920
to uh that original that

1248
00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:01,119
big special and the aviary and all these

1249
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:03,200
things like ufos live

1250
00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:05,359
and he's been involved in so much this

1251
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:07,680
stuff and then interestingly both his

1252
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:09,119
uncle and his father

1253
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:11,520
also worked on the ufo file for the us

1254
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:12,880
government and these are things that can

1255
00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:15,280
be verified so he's got

1256
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:17,680
an awful lot of involvement in these

1257
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:18,880
stories

1258
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:21,200
in the mythology and i've often thought

1259
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:23,520
that maybe he's some kind of

1260
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:26,880
like troll level maximum that

1261
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:28,880
like just gets off on all these people

1262
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:31,280
believe in this stuff so he puts it out

1263
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:33,920
for there's a there's also the the

1264
00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:35,839
possibility a smaller possibility but

1265
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:36,880
it's there

1266
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:39,119
that at some point he might have been

1267
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:40,880
involved in some type of perception

1268
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:43,040
management disinformation to deflect

1269
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:45,839
exactly yeah you know at a u.s air force

1270
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:47,520
or dod

1271
00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:49,119
you always found it interesting that he

1272
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:50,880
was involved with so many different

1273
00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:52,079
stories

1274
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:54,559
you know we've got him people nailed him

1275
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:55,359
on serpo

1276
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:57,359
saying that all the serpo stories came

1277
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:58,400
from his ip

1278
00:48:01,589 --> 00:48:01,040
address that he did not do anything to

1279
00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:01,599
hide

1280
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:04,480
very well in the email metadata and i

1281
00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:05,599
looked at it and

1282
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:07,280
i believe that those people that nailed

1283
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:09,040
him were absolutely correct i asked him

1284
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:11,119
about it he just totally denied that he

1285
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:15,750
well you know that's that's a standard

1286
00:48:20,790 --> 00:48:18,400
um thing in the cia culture

1287
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:20,800
lie deny and counter accuse our

1288
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:23,119
politicians do it all the time now

1289
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:25,599
but lie deny and counter accuse and so

1290
00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:27,520
you know one of those three are

1291
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:29,119
all of them lee belman says go off

1292
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:30,559
please dodie is a shill

1293
00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:32,400
people either love that guy or hate to

1294
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:33,920
hear about him they could just go he's a

1295
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:36,079
cia disinformation agent

1296
00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:38,400
don't listen to anything he says yeah

1297
00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:39,440
it's it's

1298
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:43,520
when dodie comes up but

1299
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:46,480
um you know i i don't know the man well

1300
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:48,640
enough to pass any moral judgment on him

1301
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:49,280
beyond

1302
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:51,839
no and here's what i'll say from from

1303
00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:52,720
the little bit of

1304
00:48:56,549 --> 00:48:54,640
talks that i've had with him i find him

1305
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:56,559
to be a very likable guy

1306
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:57,920
a lot of people come away like

1307
00:49:02,470 --> 00:48:59,680
interesting stories to tell

1308
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:02,480
and like he's got legitimately kind of

1309
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:03,520
like you

1310
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:08,400
you can verify that he really worked for

1311
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:10,960
the air force that he really worked for

1312
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:12,960
secret projects and stuff like the same

1313
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:14,079
thing with you

1314
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:16,319
so i give those sort of people a lot

1315
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:17,920
more weight than these people with fake

1316
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,760
educations fake

1317
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:21,920
you know jobs they ever held fake

1318
00:49:26,549 --> 00:49:23,200
credentials

1319
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:26,559
fake military service they never did

1320
00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:28,319
it seems to be pretty common in this

1321
00:49:31,829 --> 00:49:30,319
field you know well because the

1322
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:31,839
the people who do it they do it because

1323
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:33,760
they can get away with it for a while

1324
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:36,079
and because of all those people who want

1325
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:37,359
to be true believers

1326
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:39,280
and all those people who want to suck up

1327
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:41,200
the hopium and all those people

1328
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:44,160
who want it so much to be true so

1329
00:49:49,109 --> 00:49:46,240
they're willing

1330
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,119
to listen to uh you know some guy who

1331
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:50,720
says he was this out of the other

1332
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:52,160
who will tell them what they want to

1333
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:54,000
hear and the ones who

1334
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:57,040
legitimately were in that field that are

1335
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:58,480
not telling them what they want to hear

1336
00:50:02,549 --> 00:50:00,400
oh those guys suddenly become the dis

1337
00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:02,559
info agent so it's it's really

1338
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:05,119
in some cases not everyone you're really

1339
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:06,800
dealing with a bunch of children

1340
00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:09,440
in some cases um with you know it's

1341
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:10,000
funny

1342
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:12,640
somebody sent me a blog a month ago or

1343
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:13,119
so

1344
00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:17,280
cia disinformation agent

1345
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:19,599
but then and and i'm so mad because i

1346
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:21,599
read it and then i didn't screen capture

1347
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:23,359
it and then the whole blog went down it

1348
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:25,200
only had like 20 different posts but it

1349
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:26,640
was about all different

1350
00:50:30,870 --> 00:50:29,920
conspiracies uh mostly attacking people

1351
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:30,880
you know well you know what's

1352
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:32,880
frustrating it's fake because of this

1353
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:33,280
and

1354
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:35,920
yeah sure frustrating about that is to

1355
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:37,520
be you know accused of that is

1356
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:39,520
you know if you're if you are being a

1357
00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:40,960
shill for them you're probably

1358
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:42,960
a contractor for them and if you're a

1359
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:44,480
contractor for them you can make pretty

1360
00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:45,359
good money

1361
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:47,599
and you know when i tell people sign me

1362
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:49,040
up give me a check

1363
00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:50,880
what do you want me to tell these people

1364
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:53,359
i'll tell them give me a chat that's me

1365
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:56,240
when i get accused of that i say you

1366
00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:57,040
know i

1367
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:58,640
wish because i'd be getting a good

1368
00:51:01,910 --> 00:51:00,160
paycheck and you know where's my

1369
00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:01,920
paycheck

1370
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:04,000
yeah that's what i say and then and then

1371
00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:06,000
here's another one that's really funny

1372
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:08,240
uh the guy who plays james bond in the

1373
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:10,240
latest james bond films i can't recall

1374
00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:12,079
his name off the top right

1375
00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:15,280
daniel craig okay he visited the offices

1376
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:16,559
of the cia

1377
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:18,480
and he gave them like a half-hour talk

1378
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:20,079
or something for some reason i

1379
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:22,000
mean probably because the cia just went

1380
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:23,680
we got all this money let's get daniel

1381
00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:24,880
craig to come and talk to us

1382
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:27,599
exactly you know but there was a picture

1383
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,240
of him

1384
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:30,720
in a blue suit with glasses a lot like

1385
00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:31,760
mine

1386
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,720
right in the cia office and somebody

1387
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:36,000
posted that and said that was

1388
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:38,640
me and that was complete but i didn't

1389
00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:39,119
see it

1390
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:41,359
first of all i'm not that good looking

1391
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:43,040
nowhere near

1392
00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:45,280
that dude he's a movie star and yes the

1393
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:47,359
glasses were similar and his hair swept

1394
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:48,319
over like mine

1395
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:50,480
sort of but no that was it's just a

1396
00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:52,400
ridiculousness that people get to

1397
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:54,319
i it's still on my twitter somewhere in

1398
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:55,520
the picture

1399
00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:58,160
next thing you know next thing then you

1400
00:52:00,950 --> 00:51:58,640
know

1401
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,960
they'll be posting a still of him from

1402
00:52:04,069 --> 00:52:02,640
the star wars movie in which you can't

1403
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:04,079
see that it's him because he's a storm

1404
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:06,720
trooper and they'll say that's you

1405
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:09,760
yeah yeah and uh yeah i'm gonna

1406
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:12,160
i'm gonna ask you some uh sure some

1407
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:12,960
something very

1408
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:15,119
very uh selfish and personal because

1409
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:16,640
i've got this new project and we're

1410
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,960
gonna

1411
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:18,480
plug it for the first time that people

1412
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:20,160
on my show are gonna see it

1413
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:22,720
okay and and here's what the project is

1414
00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:24,559
i'm taking some clowns

1415
00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:27,119
and i'm taking audio of fake clown

1416
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:29,440
people

1417
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:31,440
that are selling disinformation about

1418
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:32,880
the secret space program

1419
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:34,640
and i'm putting their voices to the

1420
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:36,400
clowns talking and it's going to be

1421
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:37,200
called

1422
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:43,440
it's a series revealing the truth that

1423
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:44,640
some people have actively and

1424
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:46,319
deliberately tried to destroy credible

1425
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:49,440
ufo alien and secret space research

1426
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,680
and uh we're going to share i have a

1427
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:53,680
selfish reason for mentioning this while

1428
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:54,480
you're here

1429
00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:56,800
okay we're gonna we're gonna plug it and

1430
00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:57,680
share

1431
00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:00,240
i uh about halfway through the first

1432
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:02,240
episode where i hope next week

1433
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:04,319
if worst case scenario two weeks we'll

1434
00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:05,760
have the first episode

1435
00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:08,480
but here is uh the puppets they're gonna

1436
00:53:11,270 --> 00:53:09,040
be

1437
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:11,280
and these this is called this one is

1438
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:14,559
called davey clowncock and this one

1439
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:17,920
is called clowning no good okay okay i

1440
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:19,440
can't see these by the way okay

1441
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:21,599
all right well our audience can see them

1442
00:53:25,829 --> 00:53:23,119
so yeah

1443
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:25,839
and and so i've got this thing and i

1444
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:28,000
could use somebody to do a voice

1445
00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:30,960
like a narrator i thought of you i

1446
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:31,359
thought

1447
00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:33,200
he could do a good job doing that and

1448
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:34,800
all you have to do is read a script and

1449
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:35,680
then i'll

1450
00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:37,520
synchronize the puppet to you and you

1451
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:40,400
could be the comic disclosure

1452
00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:43,760
sort of uh announcer you know as long as

1453
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:45,920
as long as we don't end up in the legal

1454
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:49,680
sites of you know corey goode because

1455
00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:52,880
no no uh here's why here's why i picked

1456
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:54,160
this project

1457
00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:55,760
walter and you're gonna you're gonna

1458
00:54:00,710 --> 00:53:57,200
appreciate this

1459
00:54:02,549 --> 00:54:00,720
uh one second you're gonna appreciate

1460
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:02,559
why i picked this project i think this

1461
00:54:05,109 --> 00:54:04,319
project's gonna be free of any legal

1462
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:05,119
problems

1463
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:08,319
because uh neither of those two clowns

1464
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:10,480
owns any rights to that show that i'm

1465
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:12,079
going to be pulling the audio from

1466
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:14,880
gaia tv does and considering one of

1467
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:15,920
those clowns

1468
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:17,839
left on real bad terms and called them

1469
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:20,720
luciferian satanists and the other clown

1470
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:23,200
left and sued them i don't think you're

1471
00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:25,200
gonna mind me doing this i'm gonna

1472
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:28,559
i'm rolling a dice baby gaia don't

1473
00:54:32,549 --> 00:54:30,640
copyright strike me and if they do it's

1474
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:32,559
a transformative work i'm educating the

1475
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:33,119
public

1476
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:36,000
and i'm an artist walter bosley i'm an

1477
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:36,720
artist

1478
00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:39,760
sorry you got to let me do it and here's

1479
00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:41,359
the first episode it's called

1480
00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:44,720
comic disclosure episode 1 20 and back

1481
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:49,990
does not just it just rolls off the

1482
00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:52,079
tongue 20 and back while smoking

1483
00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:54,240
crack and here's some pictures of the

1484
00:54:56,789 --> 00:54:55,760
intro i know you can't see this but you

1485
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:56,799
can review it later

1486
00:55:02,069 --> 00:54:59,760
and our and our friends that will be

1487
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:02,079
portraying the two cosmic clowns so i'm

1488
00:55:04,630 --> 00:55:03,839
going to get with you offline but i'm

1489
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:04,640
signing you up

1490
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:07,359
you've got to be a voice on this thing i

1491
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:07,920
don't know

1492
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:09,359
i was trying to think of what kind of

1493
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:11,040
puppet that will play you

1494
00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:14,240
maybe a professor or something like that

1495
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:16,559
i think that would be good right that

1496
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,720
could be funny that could be really i i

1497
00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:20,400
like the idea that

1498
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:21,520
that could be yeah and speaking of

1499
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:23,920
pictures this is i asked walter bosley

1500
00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:25,119
sent me some pictures

1501
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:26,160
and you're right you were saying that

1502
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:27,839
somebody complained before about the

1503
00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:29,040
pictures you send them

1504
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:30,880
look at this high quality shot he sends

1505
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:32,400
me like look

1506
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:35,920
here's my eye and my nose you just use

1507
00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:38,640
that picture right stylish man it's

1508
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:39,359
stylish

1509
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:41,839
it's all cropped out it could be and it

1510
00:55:44,470 --> 00:55:42,960
looks a little creepy

1511
00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:44,480
i don't know walter by the way i'm not

1512
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:48,400
sure i like that one very much

1513
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:49,839
we'll put the other one that i like

1514
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:52,160
better back up so and yeah there's some

1515
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:53,680
way i'll get with you next time where

1516
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:55,920
you can hit edit avatar

1517
00:56:01,109 --> 00:55:59,040
on your side and then upload a picture

1518
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:01,119
and then instead of a blank thing on our

1519
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:03,280
side here we'll see a picture of you

1520
00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:05,680
uh you know on the screen but that's

1521
00:56:08,549 --> 00:56:06,400
okay well

1522
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:08,559
well i think i sent you multiple ones

1523
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:10,480
yeah but i can't do it i can't edit your

1524
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:12,160
avatar from my end you'd have to do it

1525
00:56:14,710 --> 00:56:12,880
on your side but

1526
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:14,720
it's okay we'll just put we'll just put

1527
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:16,559
a picture of your handsome mug

1528
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:18,640
right next to us and that'll suffice for

1529
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:19,760
anybody that's like

1530
00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:22,960
who's this guy right who's this guy

1531
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:25,520
so uh listen also i had another selfish

1532
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:27,040
question and this is personal enough you

1533
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:28,720
don't want to get into it i understand

1534
00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:30,240
but many people have asked me are

1535
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:31,760
wondering uh

1536
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:34,559
how is your health right now oh thank

1537
00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:34,880
you

1538
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:38,079
for asking um well in early december i

1539
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:41,280
i had the post chemo checkup and they

1540
00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:43,359
told me that i was all clear

1541
00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:45,599
and well that is some good news that's

1542
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:46,799
very good news

1543
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:50,400
um i have to for five years be monitored

1544
00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:52,400
now for the first three like every 90

1545
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:53,920
days i have to get my blood drawn

1546
00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:55,680
and if that's i'm still all clear after

1547
00:56:59,030 --> 00:56:57,200
those three years then it goes to every

1548
00:57:02,150 --> 00:56:59,040
six months for the next two

1549
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:02,160
um so you know so far so good

1550
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:04,559
um but yeah they say i'm all clear and

1551
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:06,640
i'm in the middle of the long

1552
00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:09,440
the long march back to getting my

1553
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:10,400
strength back

1554
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:12,160
and uh because you know they had me

1555
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:13,599
laying in bed for

1556
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:15,520
you know doing nothing for over six

1557
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:17,440
months so yeah i did that when i had a

1558
00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:20,160
brain aneurysm i was in the icu

1559
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:22,400
hospital for like you know how different

1560
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:24,079
it was terrible like and i had this

1561
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:25,359
crazy nurse that kept putting these

1562
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:27,359
things on my legs to prevent blood clots

1563
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:29,040
and you're supposed to sleep while this

1564
00:57:33,030 --> 00:57:29,920
machine is like

1565
00:57:36,309 --> 00:57:33,040
exactly massaging your legs annoyingly

1566
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,319
and making all this noise it was crazy

1567
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:38,400
but no thanks for asking it that's all

1568
00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:40,000
good well a lot of people wanted to know

1569
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:41,359
and i didn't know how to approach it but

1570
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:43,119
i thought you wouldn't mind sharing with

1571
00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:44,880
uh our friends here

1572
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:46,400
that you're doing well and i'm good i'm

1573
00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:48,000
so glad so

1574
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:50,079
it's it's okay to get openly pissed off

1575
00:57:54,069 --> 00:57:51,440
at me again

1576
00:57:55,510 --> 00:57:54,079
i noticed that during last year oh yeah

1577
00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:55,520
you get the cancer

1578
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:59,359
know that don't like you like what you

1579
00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:01,040
do they're nice you know they're like

1580
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:03,599
they leave you alone for that time so

1581
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:05,520
i'm back in the crosshairs for you guys

1582
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:07,440
so that's okay hey by the way i don't

1583
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:08,480
like to just

1584
00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:11,440
say um you know like when i responded to

1585
00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:12,240
to williams

1586
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:13,920
and i didn't mean to be i hope i wasn't

1587
00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:15,599
choppy at you william pixley

1588
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:18,079
no he was just asking a question i don't

1589
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:19,359
like to just be one of those guys that

1590
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,400
said ah that's

1591
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:22,480
that was some guy blah blah blah so i

1592
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:24,240
looked it up and we're talking about

1593
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:28,000
ernst zundel z-u-n-d-e-l

1594
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:31,359
okay and he was a holocaust denier and

1595
00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:33,440
and you know and all this crazy stuff

1596
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:34,559
and really

1597
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:37,760
that's where um that's where

1598
00:58:41,829 --> 00:58:40,960
it started picking up steam was with his

1599
00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:41,839
stuff

1600
00:58:48,549 --> 00:58:45,040
um but uh there was also the guy

1601
00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:48,559
in the italian you know essentially rag

1602
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:51,599
um you know uh what's that tabloid type

1603
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:52,559
you know stuff

1604
00:58:58,309 --> 00:58:56,160
that started the idea and um ernst

1605
00:59:01,230 --> 00:58:58,319
zundel went with it but zundel is the

1606
00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:01,240
guy who really kind of started the

1607
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:02,720
popularization

1608
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:06,480
of this this fantasy that the nazis had

1609
00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:08,079
these uh flying saucers

1610
00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:09,920
and that they had contact with alien

1611
00:59:13,270 --> 00:59:11,440
races and you know he

1612
00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:13,280
even got into the hollow earth stuff and

1613
00:59:18,069 --> 00:59:15,040
all that so ernst

1614
00:59:20,950 --> 00:59:18,079
zundel is a place to start

1615
00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:20,960
if you're if you're looking to um you

1616
00:59:24,549 --> 00:59:21,599
know

1617
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:24,559
see what the truth is yeah and i just i

1618
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:25,119
just

1619
00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:29,040
using a holocaust denying white

1620
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:30,400
supremacist

1621
00:59:33,910 --> 00:59:33,200
convicted felon as a source of a story

1622
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:33,920
so

1623
00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:36,000
you know i don't think uh you know look

1624
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:38,160
at this ufo the secret weapons

1625
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:41,280
a lot of these sort of they were almost

1626
00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:43,440
like a lot of fans of nazi germany that

1627
00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:45,440
were upset that nazi germany lost

1628
00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:48,559
right yeah you know a next right right

1629
00:59:52,630 --> 00:59:50,400
the fourth rank

1630
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:52,640
like they were gonna resurge after a

1631
00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:55,520
certain amount of time

1632
01:00:02,470 --> 00:59:58,799
you know any i feel like that

1633
01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:02,480
i think that anytime anything nazi

1634
01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:04,880
the nazis or whatever post-war nazis or

1635
01:00:08,069 --> 01:00:05,520
whatever

1636
01:00:08,710 --> 01:00:08,079
uh the german thread has appeared in my

1637
01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:08,720
research

1638
01:00:12,069 --> 01:00:10,799
is because it was a threat i was pulling

1639
01:00:14,950 --> 01:00:12,079
and there they are

1640
01:00:15,829 --> 01:00:14,960
you know i haven't written a lot about

1641
01:00:18,069 --> 01:00:15,839
you know

1642
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:18,079
these guys um yeah it's interesting that

1643
01:00:23,349 --> 01:00:20,000
a guy that's a complete a really

1644
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:23,359
proven anti-semite terrible anti-semite

1645
01:00:27,990 --> 01:00:24,400
would write a book

1646
01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:28,000
ufo's nazi secret weapon you know it's

1647
01:00:30,470 --> 01:00:29,520
like he almost wants them to have secret

1648
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:30,480
weapons so they could

1649
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:32,480
finish the job almost it's really

1650
01:00:37,109 --> 01:00:34,160
sickening

1651
01:00:39,430 --> 01:00:37,119
you know yeah and as soon as i hear that

1652
01:00:39,990 --> 01:00:39,440
somebody's like a holocaust deny or any

1653
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:40,000
semi

1654
01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:42,480
like i just i don't honestly i never

1655
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:43,119
understood

1656
01:00:48,710 --> 01:00:46,799
sentences in myself like i i

1657
01:00:50,549 --> 01:00:48,720
well i barely understand racism but

1658
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:50,559
anti-semitism especially to me

1659
01:00:53,589 --> 01:00:52,160
maybe it's just because everybody jewish

1660
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:53,599
ever known was a good

1661
01:00:58,950 --> 01:00:56,720
person to me everybody you know just

1662
01:01:00,630 --> 01:00:58,960
like me they were a lot like me i knew

1663
01:01:01,990 --> 01:01:00,640
i grew up catholic but there was a

1664
01:01:03,430 --> 01:01:02,000
couple of jewish families in the

1665
01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:03,440
neighborhood right and i'd go

1666
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:05,760
well you know i i put uh i put the

1667
01:01:09,589 --> 01:01:07,040
holocaust denial

1668
01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:09,599
i put that in the same box with the flat

1669
01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:11,440
earth people and the we didn't go to the

1670
01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:12,640
moon people

1671
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:14,720
i'm sorry i'm not saying that they're

1672
01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:16,720
all you know anti-semites what i'm

1673
01:01:20,150 --> 01:01:17,440
saying is

1674
01:01:20,470 --> 01:01:20,160
the you know denying the holocaust to me

1675
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:20,480
is

1676
01:01:24,069 --> 01:01:23,359
as jackass as denying we went to the

1677
01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:24,079
moon

1678
01:01:27,190 --> 01:01:26,559
and claiming that the earth is flat okay

1679
01:01:33,190 --> 01:01:27,200
i'm not

1680
01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:33,200
saying flat earthers are in oh man

1681
01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:34,720
they're all going to start busting my

1682
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:35,599
balls now

1683
01:01:39,510 --> 01:01:37,359
don't say anything about those crazy

1684
01:01:41,349 --> 01:01:39,520
people every time somebody goes

1685
01:01:43,349 --> 01:01:41,359
talks about how ridiculous that is on my

1686
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:43,359
show our comments get flooded with these

1687
01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:44,480
crazy people

1688
01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:46,640
like oh yeah well explain this to me

1689
01:01:51,990 --> 01:01:48,799
then if the earth is round

1690
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:52,000
you know like and i'm like [\h__\h]

1691
01:01:55,349 --> 01:01:53,920
you can go up in the airplane and see

1692
01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:55,359
the curvature of the earth

1693
01:02:00,710 --> 01:01:59,200
dumbass hot air balloon and see the

1694
01:02:02,069 --> 01:02:00,720
curvature of the earth there was a guy

1695
01:02:04,710 --> 01:02:02,079
recently i heard who said

1696
01:02:06,069 --> 01:02:04,720
yeah once i once i got through sixth

1697
01:02:08,470 --> 01:02:06,079
grade math or something

1698
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:08,480
i i knew that the earth definitely was

1699
01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:09,520
not flat

1700
01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:12,400
you know it's it's so it's it's not

1701
01:02:15,029 --> 01:02:14,160
worth because what they are talk about

1702
01:02:17,029 --> 01:02:15,039
opium

1703
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:17,039
um what what they do is they get into

1704
01:02:21,510 --> 01:02:18,240
that circular

1705
01:02:23,829 --> 01:02:21,520
arguing where you you never

1706
01:02:25,349 --> 01:02:23,839
you you nothing you come up with they're

1707
01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:25,359
they're going to recognize even if you

1708
01:02:27,349 --> 01:02:25,599
can

1709
01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:27,359
just explain it all away yeah yeah the

1710
01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:29,520
damning evidence well no i don't accept

1711
01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:29,839
that

1712
01:02:35,109 --> 01:02:33,440
oh okay yeah nasa's all fake the iss is

1713
01:02:36,710 --> 01:02:35,119
fake that's not real that's not on a

1714
01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:36,720
movie set

1715
01:02:39,910 --> 01:02:38,319
why would they want to convince us that

1716
01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:39,920
the world was round if it wasn't

1717
01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:41,760
the van allen belts they can't get

1718
01:02:43,589 --> 01:02:43,280
through the van allen belts well guess

1719
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:43,599
what

1720
01:02:47,109 --> 01:02:45,520
they got through they got through them

1721
01:02:48,630 --> 01:02:47,119
they got through the van allen belts

1722
01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:48,640
yeah and to be clear on the van allen

1723
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:49,440
belts

1724
01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:52,480
argument like they suffered some effects

1725
01:02:56,549 --> 01:02:54,160
it might not have been like instant

1726
01:02:59,270 --> 01:02:56,559
cancer but they suffered some physical

1727
01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:59,280
long-term effects from that radiation

1728
01:03:03,349 --> 01:03:00,319
exposure

1729
01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:03,359
but the nasa at the time and the

1730
01:03:07,029 --> 01:03:05,359
astronauts i'm sure they briefed them

1731
01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:07,039
like this this is what could happen

1732
01:03:10,470 --> 01:03:08,160
going through this belt

1733
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:10,480
they found the level of risk acceptable

1734
01:03:13,670 --> 01:03:11,920
and agreed to go through

1735
01:03:15,029 --> 01:03:13,680
when you look at when you look at the

1736
01:03:18,309 --> 01:03:15,039
types of metals

1737
01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:18,319
that and materials that are best

1738
01:03:24,069 --> 01:03:21,359
to shield you from um

1739
01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:24,079
van allen belt radiation guess what

1740
01:03:27,589 --> 01:03:26,000
that's what the apollo craft

1741
01:03:29,750 --> 01:03:27,599
that's the materials that was in the

1742
01:03:30,470 --> 01:03:29,760
apollo craft so they were greatly

1743
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:30,480
shielded

1744
01:03:33,670 --> 01:03:32,160
yeah they had gold shielding in that

1745
01:03:34,630 --> 01:03:33,680
thing didn't they it was thin but they

1746
01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:34,640
had gold shield

1747
01:03:41,510 --> 01:03:39,280
yeah it it it worked and you know um

1748
01:03:43,029 --> 01:03:41,520
so but that but they don't want to hear

1749
01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:43,039
that they're like no no no it's all a

1750
01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:43,680
lie it's

1751
01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:45,839
it's and you know what's funny is i i

1752
01:03:48,069 --> 01:03:47,520
live here in the inland empire i live in

1753
01:03:49,270 --> 01:03:48,079
highland

1754
01:03:51,270 --> 01:03:49,280
a little corner of the san bernardino

1755
01:03:53,109 --> 01:03:51,280
valley called highland and redlands is

1756
01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:53,119
directly to the south of me

1757
01:03:57,750 --> 01:03:55,680
and um the guy who started the we didn't

1758
01:03:58,150 --> 01:03:57,760
go to the moon nonsense is a graduate of

1759
01:04:01,589 --> 01:03:58,160
red

1760
01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:01,599
that recently i'm like

1761
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:04,000
go figure that a guy from this nutty

1762
01:04:08,789 --> 01:04:05,760
inland empire would come up with that

1763
01:04:12,630 --> 01:04:08,799
nutty we didn't go to the moon theory

1764
01:04:14,230 --> 01:04:12,640
yeah i i i i i just got into it with jay

1765
01:04:14,870 --> 01:04:14,240
weidner who a lot of people aren't aware

1766
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:14,880
of it he's

1767
01:04:21,430 --> 01:04:18,240
isn't he like the source of most of that

1768
01:04:23,910 --> 01:04:21,440
that he promotes a lot of it you know

1769
01:04:25,270 --> 01:04:23,920
yeah and then i got a real problem with

1770
01:04:26,549 --> 01:04:25,280
that one because

1771
01:04:29,109 --> 01:04:26,559
yeah and i got a real problem with that

1772
01:04:31,750 --> 01:04:29,119
one because i actually have you know

1773
01:04:33,270 --> 01:04:31,760
contacts at nasa and you know like it

1774
01:04:35,109 --> 01:04:33,280
that's just such a ridiculous

1775
01:04:36,470 --> 01:04:35,119
conspiracy theory it's just so

1776
01:04:37,910 --> 01:04:36,480
ridiculous that

1777
01:04:39,670 --> 01:04:37,920
you know hundreds and hundreds of people

1778
01:04:41,589 --> 01:04:39,680
worked on that project were they all

1779
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:41,599
lying it doesn't make any sense

1780
01:04:47,589 --> 01:04:44,960
and why you know i think that

1781
01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:47,599
when you look at the shining yes kubrick

1782
01:04:51,349 --> 01:04:49,680
did his own version of the shining it's

1783
01:04:53,270 --> 01:04:51,359
not just the pure stephen king

1784
01:04:54,549 --> 01:04:53,280
you know version from the novel yes

1785
01:04:57,029 --> 01:04:54,559
kubrick put in

1786
01:04:58,710 --> 01:04:57,039
the little things that reference apollo

1787
01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:58,720
and the native americans and

1788
01:05:02,309 --> 01:05:01,200
and everything but i think the statement

1789
01:05:05,829 --> 01:05:02,319
kubrick was making

1790
01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:05,839
was not that he was confessing to

1791
01:05:09,109 --> 01:05:08,160
faking the moon landings i i do not

1792
01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:09,119
think that's what

1793
01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:11,440
is well somehow weiner connects all

1794
01:05:17,109 --> 01:05:14,160
those dots and

1795
01:05:17,349 --> 01:05:17,119
of course i and i've seen it room 237 is

1796
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:17,359
a

1797
01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:22,319
kinds of things

1798
01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:24,720
i don't agree with you know a lot of the

1799
01:05:28,630 --> 01:05:26,000
stuff that's in it but

1800
01:05:30,710 --> 01:05:28,640
uh it's a very good documentary and some

1801
01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:30,720
of the widener materials in there

1802
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:33,680
and i've met jay and you know he was at

1803
01:05:36,950 --> 01:05:34,960
the 2015

1804
01:05:38,870 --> 01:05:36,960
secret space program conference which

1805
01:05:41,109 --> 01:05:38,880
was the beginning of corey goode's

1806
01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:41,119
impositioning of himself

1807
01:05:45,910 --> 01:05:44,319
into that community um and you know

1808
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:45,920
jay's a nice guy

1809
01:05:49,829 --> 01:05:47,920
you know listen he's a nice enough guy

1810
01:05:51,029 --> 01:05:49,839
but i get into it with him sometimes

1811
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:51,039
sure

1812
01:05:54,069 --> 01:05:52,559
i don't know if it's a good idea me and

1813
01:05:55,430 --> 01:05:54,079
him being friends on facebook because

1814
01:05:57,349 --> 01:05:55,440
i'll say something on facebook and then

1815
01:05:59,349 --> 01:05:57,359
he starts to tell me how wrong i am he

1816
01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:59,359
believes in he also believes in this

1817
01:06:02,789 --> 01:06:01,200
that these are alien mummies

1818
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:02,799
even though it's been proven that these

1819
01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:04,720
were made out of plaster

1820
01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:07,599
and you know stolen bones out of

1821
01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:08,079
somebody

1822
01:06:12,069 --> 01:06:10,480
stole human bones and glued them all

1823
01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:12,079
together and then they covered it all in

1824
01:06:15,990 --> 01:06:13,039
plaster

1825
01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:16,000
and he's like no it's real i saw it and

1826
01:06:19,270 --> 01:06:16,720
and then

1827
01:06:20,390 --> 01:06:19,280
the mummies yeah and my argument to him

1828
01:06:21,990 --> 01:06:20,400
is like come on bro

1829
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:22,000
uh you know better than real

1830
01:06:27,910 --> 01:06:23,920
pathologists and doctors

1831
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:27,920
about whether that was a real a real

1832
01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:31,200
you know body or whether it was

1833
01:06:34,470 --> 01:06:33,920
glued together from a bunch of bones and

1834
01:06:38,069 --> 01:06:34,480
who

1835
01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:38,079
together a bunch of different human

1836
01:06:42,549 --> 01:06:39,680
bones that's so

1837
01:06:44,829 --> 01:06:42,559
like a terrible thing to do you know

1838
01:06:46,309 --> 01:06:44,839
it's so disrespectful to all those dead

1839
01:06:48,630 --> 01:06:46,319
people to like

1840
01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:48,640
use their bones to try to fool people

1841
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:49,520
into believing that an

1842
01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:51,280
alien is well it's like that other

1843
01:06:55,750 --> 01:06:53,920
so-called uh alien mummy that ended up

1844
01:06:58,390 --> 01:06:55,760
being egg on the faces of uh

1845
01:07:00,150 --> 01:06:58,400
jaime mason and richard oh and by the

1846
01:07:00,630 --> 01:07:00,160
way hiv-massan's involved in this one

1847
01:07:03,910 --> 01:07:00,640
too

1848
01:07:08,069 --> 01:07:03,920
he's every fake alien [\h__\h] story

1849
01:07:10,630 --> 01:07:08,079
and uh has also done the marmoset monkey

1850
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:10,640
that he claimed was an alien so he's got

1851
01:07:14,950 --> 01:07:12,400
he's got the roswell slides he's got

1852
01:07:18,150 --> 01:07:14,960
this fake alien and he's got the fake

1853
01:07:20,470 --> 01:07:18,160
marmoset mummy that turned out to be

1854
01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:20,480
you know a marmoset monkey and like a

1855
01:07:23,990 --> 01:07:21,200
real

1856
01:07:25,750 --> 01:07:24,000
uh zoologist looked at it and said

1857
01:07:28,549 --> 01:07:25,760
that's a marmoset monkey

1858
01:07:30,069 --> 01:07:28,559
that's not an alien but he's still you

1859
01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:30,079
know

1860
01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:32,640
he still claims no no that wasn't a that

1861
01:07:37,109 --> 01:07:33,760
wasn't a marseille

1862
01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:37,119
monkey that was an alien you know

1863
01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:39,200
and it's one thing to take a a monkey

1864
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:40,319
body and and

1865
01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:42,000
try to scam people with it but to take

1866
01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:44,319
human bones to me is just

1867
01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:46,400
just that's just too much it's too

1868
01:07:50,470 --> 01:07:47,920
difficult well you know the people that

1869
01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:50,480
the people that um are chasing either

1870
01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:51,119
ufo

1871
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:55,520
mostly mythical i don't think anybody's

1872
01:08:00,069 --> 01:07:57,440
making gazillions of dollars

1873
01:08:02,230 --> 01:08:00,079
you know off of the ufo dollar but

1874
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:02,240
people that you know want that attention

1875
01:08:06,470 --> 01:08:05,200
and and or or they have been out there

1876
01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:06,480
long enough that they gotta

1877
01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:09,520
they gotta have some latest scheme going

1878
01:08:13,270 --> 01:08:10,480
on

1879
01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:13,280
um that they'll sometimes that drives

1880
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:14,880
people to do more desperate

1881
01:08:17,910 --> 01:08:16,799
take more desperate measures to keep

1882
01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:17,920
that attention

1883
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:20,400
to you know to keep that spotlight and

1884
01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:22,400
this is what drives some people to

1885
01:08:26,950 --> 01:08:24,560
do things yeah i was having i was having

1886
01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:26,960
trouble finding it but here is what

1887
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:28,960
ivy massage was saying was an alien

1888
01:08:35,349 --> 01:08:30,960
turns out to be

1889
01:08:40,709 --> 01:08:39,110
that is crazy yeah the the length that

1890
01:08:41,110 --> 01:08:40,719
these guys will go to to try to fake

1891
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:41,120
stuff

1892
01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:43,440
it's just to me it's just too much you

1893
01:08:46,550 --> 01:08:44,960
know especially if you've been caught

1894
01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:46,560
multiple times why does anybody even

1895
01:08:49,030 --> 01:08:48,159
believe these guys anymore after they've

1896
01:08:51,189 --> 01:08:49,040
been caught

1897
01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:51,199
hoaxing stuff multiple multiple times

1898
01:08:54,789 --> 01:08:52,319
because there's always a

1899
01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:54,799
a new crop of people new to this stuff

1900
01:08:57,269 --> 01:08:56,000
that are yeah

1901
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:57,279
they forgot the history of the frame of

1902
01:09:00,309 --> 01:08:59,759
mind yeah they forget the history of

1903
01:09:01,990 --> 01:09:00,319
this stuff

1904
01:09:03,189 --> 01:09:02,000
or they don't they or they didn't know

1905
01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:03,199
that they don't know the history to

1906
01:09:07,030 --> 01:09:04,000
begin with

1907
01:09:11,110 --> 01:09:07,040
take a look at the ttsa fanboy culture

1908
01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:11,120
good lord times this is the first time

1909
01:09:13,749 --> 01:09:13,120
the media in the new york times has ever

1910
01:09:16,870 --> 01:09:13,759
talked about

1911
01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:16,880
oh bs one of them i got into it with

1912
01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:18,640
over that specific issue

1913
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:22,159
and it took me literally about maybe 40

1914
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:23,279
minutes

1915
01:09:28,950 --> 01:09:26,640
or eight

1916
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:28,960
new york times articles that had been

1917
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:30,960
published uh dating back to the early

1918
01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:32,640
60s and through the 70s

1919
01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:35,679
all with the same non-mocking tone about

1920
01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:36,960
ufos

1921
01:09:40,709 --> 01:09:39,040
and to prove that new york times has

1922
01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:40,719
talked about this before without mocking

1923
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:42,000
it this is nothing new

1924
01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:45,040
but this bozo didn't know the history of

1925
01:09:47,910 --> 01:09:45,679
you know the

1926
01:09:49,669 --> 01:09:47,920
ufos and media and ufology and all that

1927
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:49,679
stuff and a lot i found that a lot of

1928
01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:51,759
the ttsa cheerleaders

1929
01:09:56,149 --> 01:09:54,560
um they they are completely ignorant of

1930
01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:56,159
what's already come before

1931
01:10:00,709 --> 01:09:58,719
and that includes you know the scam

1932
01:10:02,470 --> 01:10:00,719
artist this is why some of us you know

1933
01:10:05,110 --> 01:10:02,480
old dogs us gray hairs

1934
01:10:06,790 --> 01:10:05,120
when we saw this ttsa thing emerge and

1935
01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:06,800
some of the names involved we were like

1936
01:10:11,110 --> 01:10:09,040
oh please give us yeah as soon as i saw

1937
01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:11,120
how put off was involved they went oh

1938
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:12,880
that means it's [\h__\h] because he'll

1939
01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:15,120
put off i'm sorry that dude he might be

1940
01:10:18,390 --> 01:10:16,000
a doctor

1941
01:10:19,030 --> 01:10:18,400
he might really be a physicist but he

1942
01:10:22,229 --> 01:10:19,040
has been

1943
01:10:23,830 --> 01:10:22,239
on like he is a half a con man because

1944
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:23,840
his whole life he's been trying to

1945
01:10:27,189 --> 01:10:25,360
collect money so that he could do his

1946
01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:27,199
so-called research he's never produced

1947
01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:30,080
anything meaningful despite all of the

1948
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:32,239
donations that he's collected over the

1949
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:33,120
years and

1950
01:10:37,189 --> 01:10:35,040
government money that he's collected

1951
01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:37,199
over the years to work on things like

1952
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:39,520
you know psychic spies and he declared

1953
01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:40,400
that

1954
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:42,800
yuri geller was real and yuri geller

1955
01:10:47,270 --> 01:10:44,080
later came out and said no

1956
01:10:49,669 --> 01:10:47,280
i was just using magic tricks

1957
01:10:50,310 --> 01:10:49,679
love how put off but jesus christ you

1958
01:10:54,950 --> 01:10:50,320
know

1959
01:10:56,550 --> 01:10:54,960
about ttsa that i find most disturbing

1960
01:10:58,709 --> 01:10:56,560
is that

1961
01:10:59,750 --> 01:10:58,719
tom delong stood up three years ago now

1962
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:59,760
mr bosley

1963
01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:00,960
yes i wanna know what you think about

1964
01:11:06,229 --> 01:11:03,760
this three years ago he stood up on a

1965
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:06,239
stage had this big press conference

1966
01:11:11,830 --> 01:11:09,840
yes right and then he said

1967
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:11,840
invest in our company this is a great

1968
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:13,679
opportunity for you because we're gonna

1969
01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:14,880
build a spaceship

1970
01:11:18,149 --> 01:11:17,440
and they showed a mock-up of a spaceship

1971
01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:18,159
yep and i

1972
01:11:21,430 --> 01:11:19,920
i just want to know it's been three

1973
01:11:23,590 --> 01:11:21,440
years time to loan

1974
01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:23,600
where's the [\h__\h] spaceship at why

1975
01:11:27,430 --> 01:11:25,440
don't we get to see the spaceship you've

1976
01:11:28,630 --> 01:11:27,440
claimed hundreds of thousands of dollars

1977
01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:28,640
and you said

1978
01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:30,960
i didn't say it walter bosley that i was

1979
01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:32,800
going to build the spaceship

1980
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:34,000
he said he was going to build a

1981
01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:35,760
spaceship so i'm going to petition i'm

1982
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:37,199
going to send an email as soon as we get

1983
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:38,320
off the show tonight

1984
01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:39,520
and i'm going to tell them that mr

1985
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:41,920
walter bosley and me want to take a ride

1986
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:43,440
in his spaceship

1987
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:45,760
and we'll see what happens oh that'd be

1988
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:47,280
cool if he's got one yeah

1989
01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:49,280
hey you know it look let's let's give

1990
01:11:54,070 --> 01:11:50,960
them something more manageable

1991
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:54,080
to do okay also you heard their fans and

1992
01:11:57,830 --> 01:11:54,800
people all

1993
01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:57,840
in the in the excitement about ttsa and

1994
01:12:02,310 --> 01:11:58,960
you heard

1995
01:12:03,830 --> 01:12:02,320
um i well what dolan said was you're on

1996
01:12:04,790 --> 01:12:03,840
the wrong side of history if you don't

1997
01:12:06,149 --> 01:12:04,800
go along with this

1998
01:12:07,669 --> 01:12:06,159
but some people were talking about how

1999
01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:07,679
the game has changed this changes the

2000
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:08,000
game

2001
01:12:15,910 --> 01:12:14,800
it hasn't changed one bit and listen

2002
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:15,920
walter bozzi

2003
01:12:20,470 --> 01:12:18,719
uh just to clarify v is asking when did

2004
01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:20,480
yuri geller say magic tricks i thought

2005
01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:22,239
he never changed his story

2006
01:12:27,590 --> 01:12:25,679
no the he uh worked at magic conferences

2007
01:12:28,630 --> 01:12:27,600
for the society both the society of

2008
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:28,640
american magicians

2009
01:12:31,830 --> 01:12:30,000
and the international brotherhood of

2010
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:31,840
magicians teaching people

2011
01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:33,600
teaching other magicians the tricks he

2012
01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:35,360
used on national television

2013
01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:38,239
to do almost all of his tricks and he

2014
01:12:41,669 --> 01:12:40,000
sold a very expensive course to other

2015
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:41,679
magicians where you too could learn to

2016
01:12:44,149 --> 01:12:43,360
bend spoons with your mind and all this

2017
01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:44,159
other stuff

2018
01:12:48,470 --> 01:12:46,239
yeah he showed all the tricks that he

2019
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:48,480
used which are basically off-the-shelf

2020
01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:50,560
magic tricks disguised a little bit to

2021
01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:51,840
be psychic instead of

2022
01:12:57,430 --> 01:12:55,280
magic yeah sure

2023
01:12:58,950 --> 01:12:57,440
and i i couldn't believe that when that

2024
01:12:59,910 --> 01:12:58,960
happened because i had followed him

2025
01:13:01,510 --> 01:12:59,920
since i was a kid

2026
01:13:02,630 --> 01:13:01,520
and i kind of did when i was a kid i

2027
01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:02,640
wanted to believe he could really do

2028
01:13:05,590 --> 01:13:03,280
that stuff

2029
01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:05,600
sure but then james randy comes along

2030
01:13:08,229 --> 01:13:07,760
and reproduces almost everything that he

2031
01:13:11,590 --> 01:13:08,239
did

2032
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:11,600
and that you know yeah

2033
01:13:15,189 --> 01:13:14,320
and so back to roswell i got to play the

2034
01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:15,199
devil's ad

2035
01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:17,280
advocate and i have to ask you this

2036
01:13:20,470 --> 01:13:18,880
because this is where i think we're

2037
01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:20,480
going to disagree a little bit

2038
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:22,960
okay i i'm fascinated by this book

2039
01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:24,560
children of roswell

2040
01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:27,280
uh and that's by don schmidt and tom

2041
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:28,000
carey

2042
01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:29,440
and there's a lot of there's a lot of

2043
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:31,440
stories in there about

2044
01:13:35,750 --> 01:13:34,400
firsthand roswell witnesses who told

2045
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:35,760
their children

2046
01:13:40,229 --> 01:13:38,080
this was aliens this was not made on

2047
01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:40,239
earth i saw the bodies

2048
01:13:44,070 --> 01:13:43,360
i flew the bodies to wright patterson or

2049
01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:44,080
whatever

2050
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:46,400
and then these people's backgrounds in

2051
01:13:50,310 --> 01:13:48,400
the book were verified by don schmidt

2052
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:50,320
and tom kerry as actually having been at

2053
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:52,960
roswell stationed there worked there

2054
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:56,640
and it's to me some of this testimony is

2055
01:14:02,470 --> 01:14:00,400
extremely compelling uh how if you don't

2056
01:14:04,470 --> 01:14:02,480
believe in the alien hypothesis then mr

2057
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:04,480
bodily how do you

2058
01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:06,880
how do you explain those testimonies of

2059
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:08,800
people talking about alien bodies

2060
01:14:14,310 --> 01:14:12,719
well in technology i haven't

2061
01:14:16,709 --> 01:14:14,320
sorry the audio was breaking up a little

2062
01:14:19,830 --> 01:14:16,719
bit i haven't read the book

2063
01:14:20,950 --> 01:14:19,840
um i think i my first the first time i

2064
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:20,960
heard mention of it was when you

2065
01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:22,560
mentioned it to kevin randle

2066
01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:26,400
last week um look

2067
01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:28,880
short of reading the book and and i will

2068
01:14:32,630 --> 01:14:30,560
look for this book and i will read it

2069
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:32,640
now but short of reading the book

2070
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:35,679
my best guess would be

2071
01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:38,400
that hey i hate to say it probably some

2072
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:40,640
or a lot of those people are just

2073
01:14:47,830 --> 01:14:44,000
their they're first mistaken

2074
01:14:49,750 --> 01:14:47,840
or they heard a story or in some cases

2075
01:14:53,030 --> 01:14:49,760
they're lying

2076
01:14:55,830 --> 01:14:53,040
um so you know take your well

2077
01:14:57,189 --> 01:14:55,840
i'm gonna go one step further then you

2078
01:15:00,070 --> 01:14:57,199
were in the military

2079
01:15:01,350 --> 01:15:00,080
right yes do you know many generals did

2080
01:15:02,790 --> 01:15:01,360
you ever get to interact with many

2081
01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:02,800
generals while you're in the military

2082
01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:04,640
the general i interacted with the two

2083
01:15:09,669 --> 01:15:07,040
generals i interacted with most

2084
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:09,679
was the commander of air force osi

2085
01:15:14,950 --> 01:15:11,760
francis xavier taylor

2086
01:15:17,590 --> 01:15:14,960
who went on to become the um the uh

2087
01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:17,600
uh the the ambassador at large for

2088
01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:18,640
counterterrorism

2089
01:15:22,709 --> 01:15:20,719
in the barack obama administration or

2090
01:15:25,830 --> 01:15:22,719
the george bush administration i think

2091
01:15:29,350 --> 01:15:25,840
um and uh francis general taylor

2092
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:29,360
um i interacted with him in person

2093
01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:31,600
twice in a six-year career once while

2094
01:15:35,350 --> 01:15:32,800
deployed

2095
01:15:36,310 --> 01:15:35,360
in saudi arabia and once when he

2096
01:15:39,350 --> 01:15:36,320
personally

2097
01:15:41,110 --> 01:15:39,360
gave me my decoration for having um been

2098
01:15:42,070 --> 01:15:41,120
to saudi arabia later at uh

2099
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:42,080
wright-patterson

2100
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:43,920
i have a photo of me with him by the way

2101
01:15:48,470 --> 01:15:45,360
which i'll send you

2102
01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:48,480
and the other general was general uh and

2103
01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:50,480
you'll snicker at this name but general

2104
01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:52,080
daniel dick

2105
01:15:58,310 --> 01:15:55,199
that's his name he was commander of the

2106
01:16:02,950 --> 01:15:58,320
uh 4404th wing at uh

2107
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:02,960
prince sultan air base in uh in

2108
01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:06,000
outside of riyadh in al carj uh saudi

2109
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:09,280
arabia and i was the counterintelligence

2110
01:16:12,709 --> 01:16:10,960
agent during my six months there

2111
01:16:14,790 --> 01:16:12,719
that would go in and give the command

2112
01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:14,800
staff briefings

2113
01:16:18,390 --> 01:16:17,280
on counterterrorism intelligence and

2114
01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:18,400
general dick was

2115
01:16:22,310 --> 01:16:20,800
at these briefings probably like 70

2116
01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:22,320
percent of the time and if he wasn't his

2117
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:23,760
second in command was

2118
01:16:27,350 --> 01:16:26,960
so you know i i would encounter general

2119
01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:27,360
dick

2120
01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:34,310
i would encounter the general uh at

2121
01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:35,440
least once a week

2122
01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:38,640
if not more often um during that six

2123
01:16:41,110 --> 01:16:39,120
months

2124
01:16:43,350 --> 01:16:41,120
okay but my whole point was you know

2125
01:16:45,430 --> 01:16:43,360
they've been really high-ranking

2126
01:16:47,430 --> 01:16:45,440
military people who came out and said

2127
01:16:50,070 --> 01:16:47,440
this was not

2128
01:16:50,709 --> 01:16:50,080
made on this earth you know this was

2129
01:16:52,470 --> 01:16:50,719
well that's what

2130
01:16:54,310 --> 01:16:52,480
we're going to spacecraft that's what

2131
01:16:56,229 --> 01:16:54,320
we're told

2132
01:16:57,910 --> 01:16:56,239
who says that you have to consider the

2133
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:57,920
source you got well kevin randall has

2134
01:17:00,790 --> 01:16:59,760
interviewed some of them that said that

2135
01:17:03,189 --> 01:17:00,800
or

2136
01:17:05,110 --> 01:17:03,199
you know don't get me wrong so we have

2137
01:17:07,669 --> 01:17:05,120
we have major jessie marcel

2138
01:17:08,870 --> 01:17:07,679
yeah right that's pretty high rank gen

2139
01:17:15,350 --> 01:17:08,880
major

2140
01:17:17,350 --> 01:17:15,360
that i want to know like you know a lot

2141
01:17:18,149 --> 01:17:17,360
of high-ranking military people in your

2142
01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:18,159
career

2143
01:17:21,750 --> 01:17:20,000
how many of them make up stories about

2144
01:17:24,709 --> 01:17:21,760
aliens and flying saucers

2145
01:17:25,510 --> 01:17:24,719
well no they don't and no nonsense

2146
01:17:27,430 --> 01:17:25,520
people so

2147
01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:27,440
the fact that people claim that these

2148
01:17:30,149 --> 01:17:29,280
high-ranking military people just made

2149
01:17:32,709 --> 01:17:30,159
up these stories

2150
01:17:33,669 --> 01:17:32,719
remember what i said like an hour ago i

2151
01:17:36,870 --> 01:17:33,679
totally think

2152
01:17:37,189 --> 01:17:36,880
et has come to this planet and i totally

2153
01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:37,199
think

2154
01:17:41,189 --> 01:17:39,520
you know if if generals have told anyone

2155
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:41,199
this these are generals if you look at

2156
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:42,480
their career if they're telling the

2157
01:17:46,149 --> 01:17:43,600
truth and this

2158
01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:46,159
this really happened these conversations

2159
01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:47,600
and and i have no reason to doubt

2160
01:17:53,590 --> 01:17:50,719
you know kevin randle on this um is

2161
01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:53,600
well then they had a job where they know

2162
01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:54,800
this information

2163
01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:56,560
and i don't doubt that et's have been to

2164
01:18:00,310 --> 01:17:58,080
this planet but what i do

2165
01:18:01,510 --> 01:18:00,320
is i look at specific instances i just

2166
01:18:02,310 --> 01:18:01,520
don't think it's true in the case of

2167
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:02,320
roswell

2168
01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:05,920
but i certainly have no trouble with

2169
01:18:10,630 --> 01:18:08,960
you know the um you know someone saying

2170
01:18:12,630 --> 01:18:10,640
hey this general said it and this

2171
01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:12,640
he was a real guy he was here and there

2172
01:18:19,030 --> 01:18:16,159
so i have no problem with that

2173
01:18:20,149 --> 01:18:19,040
okay yeah i mean it just bothers me some

2174
01:18:21,669 --> 01:18:20,159
of these high-ranking

2175
01:18:23,669 --> 01:18:21,679
military because my father was in the

2176
01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:23,679
military mr bosley and he

2177
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:27,120
he had no tolerance for [\h__\h] do you

2178
01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:28,159
know what i mean like

2179
01:18:31,189 --> 01:18:30,480
he's a military real straight lace shirt

2180
01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:31,199
haircut

2181
01:18:36,630 --> 01:18:34,640
like you know it just

2182
01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:36,640
when when a high-ranking military guy

2183
01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:38,640
says these things to me it holds a lot

2184
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:39,520
more

2185
01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:42,880
value right yeah and then a colonel

2186
01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:43,679
thomas

2187
01:18:47,990 --> 01:18:46,560
dubose was also in the room when they

2188
01:18:50,709 --> 01:18:48,000
took those famous pictures

2189
01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:50,719
of the debris and he testified that

2190
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:52,400
there was a material switch that the

2191
01:18:56,229 --> 01:18:54,000
materials that they took the pictures

2192
01:18:58,550 --> 01:18:56,239
with were not the same materials that

2193
01:19:01,510 --> 01:18:58,560
they picked up on the ranch

2194
01:19:02,470 --> 01:19:01,520
so well but i i tend to lean towards if

2195
01:19:04,709 --> 01:19:02,480
if

2196
01:19:06,550 --> 01:19:04,719
i don't know my understanding of what

2197
01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:06,560
kevin randle has presented is there's

2198
01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:08,080
question about whether there was a

2199
01:19:12,870 --> 01:19:10,560
really a material switch or not there's

2200
01:19:15,750 --> 01:19:12,880
there's some doubt about that right

2201
01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:15,760
yeah he he was unsure as well like he

2202
01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:17,280
was kind of like

2203
01:19:21,189 --> 01:19:19,600
optional there's some doubt about

2204
01:19:22,070 --> 01:19:21,199
whether there was really a material

2205
01:19:24,149 --> 01:19:22,080
switch

2206
01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:24,159
between other material and what was in

2207
01:19:27,510 --> 01:19:26,320
those photos it was this general colonel

2208
01:19:29,430 --> 01:19:27,520
dubose later

2209
01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:29,440
uh basically said that he believed it

2210
01:19:33,110 --> 01:19:31,520
was extraterrestrial spacecraft

2211
01:19:35,750 --> 01:19:33,120
that they found and that they switched

2212
01:19:39,750 --> 01:19:35,760
that for this weather balloon material

2213
01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:39,760
and to me again it's a kernel you know

2214
01:19:44,630 --> 01:19:42,880
we get to the rainy memo yeah

2215
01:19:45,910 --> 01:19:44,640
a lot of this stuff is is really

2216
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:45,920
intriguing to me

2217
01:19:52,550 --> 01:19:49,120
but you have to you have to

2218
01:19:54,630 --> 01:19:52,560
unpack it who says colonel dubose said

2219
01:19:56,310 --> 01:19:54,640
that

2220
01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:56,320
yeah in other words yeah there are

2221
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:58,080
sources that said he said that and then

2222
01:20:01,030 --> 01:19:59,760
there's cal court who says no that's not

2223
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:01,040
what he said

2224
01:20:05,350 --> 01:20:03,040
exactly or that the conversation was not

2225
01:20:05,990 --> 01:20:05,360
recorded he was quoted out of context so

2226
01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:06,000
this is

2227
01:20:11,350 --> 01:20:09,440
me

2228
01:20:13,030 --> 01:20:11,360
he did say this and then and then

2229
01:20:13,350 --> 01:20:13,040
another researcher will say no no that's

2230
01:20:16,310 --> 01:20:13,360
not

2231
01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:16,320
actually correct and here's why you know

2232
01:20:19,750 --> 01:20:17,199
and there's

2233
01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:19,760
so many of these military guys when when

2234
01:20:22,470 --> 01:20:20,320
somebody

2235
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:22,480
writes in a book that oh so-and-so says

2236
01:20:24,709 --> 01:20:24,000
that this is what that guy said i have

2237
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:24,719
to go well

2238
01:20:29,110 --> 01:20:27,280
okay i'm already removed from you know

2239
01:20:31,270 --> 01:20:29,120
this statement by how many degrees

2240
01:20:32,950 --> 01:20:31,280
right and you know i wasn't there to

2241
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:32,960
hear colonel dubose say it

2242
01:20:36,629 --> 01:20:35,600
so i have to trust the the for the

2243
01:20:38,790 --> 01:20:36,639
person who was

2244
01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:38,800
there who allegedly heard colonel dubose

2245
01:20:41,910 --> 01:20:39,840
say it or

2246
01:20:43,669 --> 01:20:41,920
i have to trust that person and the

2247
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:43,679
person he or she told

2248
01:20:47,430 --> 01:20:46,080
who's now telling me and on and so forth

2249
01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:47,440
and the problem is

2250
01:20:52,709 --> 01:20:50,800
the game telephone you know where

2251
01:20:54,629 --> 01:20:52,719
the turtle the bose sets oh in fact i

2252
01:20:57,270 --> 01:20:54,639
have a real world example on this

2253
01:20:59,590 --> 01:20:57,280
okay going back to general france's ex

2254
01:21:02,870 --> 01:20:59,600
taylor

2255
01:21:03,590 --> 01:21:02,880
here's another i'm sorry go ahead um i i

2256
01:21:05,430 --> 01:21:03,600
remember

2257
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:05,440
when he was talking when we were in

2258
01:21:09,189 --> 01:21:06,639
saudi arabia

2259
01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:09,199
and he would complain he'd say you know

2260
01:21:12,070 --> 01:21:10,800
one thing i'm getting tired of you guys

2261
01:21:14,790 --> 01:21:12,080
just so you know is

2262
01:21:17,030 --> 01:21:14,800
i will make a casual comment about hey

2263
01:21:20,229 --> 01:21:17,040
you know i wonder about such and such

2264
01:21:22,709 --> 01:21:20,239
and he goes within within 30 days

2265
01:21:24,149 --> 01:21:22,719
i've heard that somebody below me has

2266
01:21:26,149 --> 01:21:24,159
translated that into

2267
01:21:28,550 --> 01:21:26,159
the general wants you to do this and

2268
01:21:30,870 --> 01:21:28,560
then they send it out into the field

2269
01:21:32,550 --> 01:21:30,880
and then it's interpreted as the general

2270
01:21:34,070 --> 01:21:32,560
wants you to do that he goes by the time

2271
01:21:35,910 --> 01:21:34,080
it gets back to me i'm like

2272
01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:35,920
what the hell people what is it yeah

2273
01:21:39,030 --> 01:21:37,360
what does he want me to do and

2274
01:21:40,550 --> 01:21:39,040
this leads to another question and i

2275
01:21:42,070 --> 01:21:40,560
want to thank this this

2276
01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:42,080
these slides i'm using is is from

2277
01:21:44,629 --> 01:21:43,520
something called copy of the roswell

2278
01:21:46,229 --> 01:21:44,639
intelligence report

2279
01:21:47,910 --> 01:21:46,239
and remember i can't see what you're

2280
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:47,920
sure this is from i'll read it to you

2281
01:21:51,189 --> 01:21:49,920
so this is from uh alien scientist i

2282
01:21:52,629 --> 01:21:51,199
want to thank him for sharing this with

2283
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:52,639
me because it's really helpful to try to

2284
01:21:55,910 --> 01:21:53,600
break down

2285
01:21:57,510 --> 01:21:55,920
the sequence of events and things one of

2286
01:21:59,590 --> 01:21:57,520
the things i want to ask you about is

2287
01:22:01,510 --> 01:21:59,600
is it a coincidence that right after

2288
01:22:03,189 --> 01:22:01,520
roswell happened the national security

2289
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:03,199
act of 1947 came

2290
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:05,040
in the war department changed the

2291
01:22:08,550 --> 01:22:06,239
department of defense

2292
01:22:10,149 --> 01:22:08,560
and they created the cia the central

2293
01:22:13,910 --> 01:22:10,159
intelligence agency and

2294
01:22:16,709 --> 01:22:13,920
the nsa the national security agency

2295
01:22:18,149 --> 01:22:16,719
is it a coincidence that or do you think

2296
01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:18,159
that roswell had something to do with it

2297
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:19,679
because a lot of people that believe mj

2298
01:22:22,709 --> 01:22:20,320
12

2299
01:22:24,550 --> 01:22:22,719
or or any of these theories is that the

2300
01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:24,560
secret group formed

2301
01:22:28,790 --> 01:22:27,040
all of this is related to roswell the

2302
01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:28,800
national security act the creation of

2303
01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:31,040
the cia the creation of the nsa the

2304
01:22:35,270 --> 01:22:33,360
creation of the air force even

2305
01:22:36,550 --> 01:22:35,280
and the department of defense changing

2306
01:22:38,229 --> 01:22:36,560
from the you know war departments

2307
01:22:39,910 --> 01:22:38,239
department of defense

2308
01:22:41,350 --> 01:22:39,920
you think there's a connection between

2309
01:22:43,270 --> 01:22:41,360
roswell and these events

2310
01:22:44,550 --> 01:22:43,280
yeah and the air force being created

2311
01:22:47,110 --> 01:22:44,560
also after that okay

2312
01:22:49,270 --> 01:22:47,120
oh by the way i finally was smart enough

2313
01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:49,280
to pull up on my computer

2314
01:22:52,470 --> 01:22:51,280
your page so now i can see what you're

2315
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:52,480
putting on the screen

2316
01:22:56,950 --> 01:22:54,880
i don't see you and yeah we just have

2317
01:22:58,390 --> 01:22:56,960
some uh we just got some slides here and

2318
01:23:00,790 --> 01:22:58,400
these are yeah i'm looking at that

2319
01:23:02,229 --> 01:23:00,800
yeah that's right patterson right yeah

2320
01:23:04,830 --> 01:23:02,239
this so that yeah but

2321
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:04,840
let me get back yeah so to answer your

2322
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:06,000
question

2323
01:23:09,270 --> 01:23:08,159
um here i have the slide that we were

2324
01:23:10,470 --> 01:23:09,280
talking about about the national

2325
01:23:14,390 --> 01:23:10,480
security act

2326
01:23:18,390 --> 01:23:14,400
absolutely

2327
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:18,400
agree that whatever it actually was

2328
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:21,840
that happened in 47 regarding this stuff

2329
01:23:25,990 --> 01:23:22,800
we're talking about i

2330
01:23:28,870 --> 01:23:26,000
absolutely agree that that

2331
01:23:29,910 --> 01:23:28,880
was the driving force for this national

2332
01:23:33,430 --> 01:23:29,920
security act

2333
01:23:35,830 --> 01:23:33,440
of course yeah i for a long time i have

2334
01:23:38,870 --> 01:23:35,840
suspected that so yeah i agree with that

2335
01:23:40,790 --> 01:23:38,880
what we meant we may all here disagree

2336
01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:40,800
on what the specifics what roswell

2337
01:23:46,550 --> 01:23:43,120
actually was and what it wasn't and such

2338
01:23:49,110 --> 01:23:46,560
but i yes i agree that whatever happened

2339
01:23:50,790 --> 01:23:49,120
in new mexico in 1947 that's caused all

2340
01:23:53,750 --> 01:23:50,800
these things we're talking about

2341
01:23:54,629 --> 01:23:53,760
that's caused this legend of roswell yes

2342
01:23:57,669 --> 01:23:54,639
yes i agree

2343
01:23:58,470 --> 01:23:57,679
that that is why this national security

2344
01:24:02,390 --> 01:23:58,480
act stood up

2345
01:24:05,669 --> 01:24:02,400
think about it if if world war ii

2346
01:24:08,550 --> 01:24:05,679
if world war ii which showed uh uh

2347
01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:08,560
brought us the ascendancy of air power

2348
01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:09,440
in war

2349
01:24:13,030 --> 01:24:10,960
remember world war one they didn't want

2350
01:24:16,229 --> 01:24:13,040
to hear about it okay

2351
01:24:17,189 --> 01:24:16,239
by world war ii air power ascended as

2352
01:24:19,510 --> 01:24:17,199
okay

2353
01:24:20,229 --> 01:24:19,520
you know the air power is important and

2354
01:24:24,070 --> 01:24:20,239
if if

2355
01:24:25,830 --> 01:24:24,080
world war ii wasn't enough

2356
01:24:27,669 --> 01:24:25,840
to go ahead and say let's have an

2357
01:24:30,310 --> 01:24:27,679
independent air force

2358
01:24:30,709 --> 01:24:30,320
what the hell happened in 1947 that made

2359
01:24:33,110 --> 01:24:30,719
them

2360
01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:33,120
you know um it couldn't just be the cold

2361
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:35,600
war concern about russian missiles

2362
01:24:41,110 --> 01:24:38,800
um so yeah i i definitely think that's

2363
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:41,120
my long answer to that just to emphasize

2364
01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:42,000
that

2365
01:24:47,669 --> 01:24:45,760
next thing i'm going to ask you gets

2366
01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:47,679
you listen you work for the air force

2367
01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:49,440
office of special investigation so i'm

2368
01:24:53,270 --> 01:24:51,360
going to ask you a question

2369
01:24:54,790 --> 01:24:53,280
and and if this violate you've got to

2370
01:24:56,390 --> 01:24:54,800
tell me if this might violate some

2371
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:56,400
security out that you're still bound by

2372
01:24:59,350 --> 01:24:57,600
or nda

2373
01:25:01,270 --> 01:24:59,360
all right you were in the air force

2374
01:25:04,070 --> 01:25:01,280
office of special investigation

2375
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:04,080
now let's say that in the area where you

2376
01:25:07,990 --> 01:25:04,880
worked

2377
01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:08,000
some aircraft of unknown origin

2378
01:25:14,390 --> 01:25:10,960
crashed where what would happen and

2379
01:25:20,790 --> 01:25:17,750
well it it all depends on

2380
01:25:22,629 --> 01:25:20,800
what's what's in the debris and

2381
01:25:25,030 --> 01:25:22,639
and who needs to look at it but

2382
01:25:27,270 --> 01:25:25,040
basically to give you the short answer

2383
01:25:28,470 --> 01:25:27,280
you're either talking about wright

2384
01:25:31,669 --> 01:25:28,480
patterson labs

2385
01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:31,679
or you're talking about one of the uh

2386
01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:34,719
intel material intel bases in texas

2387
01:25:38,790 --> 01:25:37,280
would be my guess right off the top of

2388
01:25:40,950 --> 01:25:38,800
my head now

2389
01:25:42,629 --> 01:25:40,960
there's also colorado springs you don't

2390
01:25:45,030 --> 01:25:42,639
hear people talking about that but

2391
01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:45,040
there's some interesting things that the

2392
01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:46,320
air force

2393
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:49,679
does um in colorado springs so it could

2394
01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:50,320
be there

2395
01:25:55,590 --> 01:25:53,520
too okay most people believe that

2396
01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:55,600
the roswell material went to wright

2397
01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:56,960
patterson because that's where the

2398
01:26:01,910 --> 01:25:58,800
foreign technology division was

2399
01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:01,920
uh there's some of the lore

2400
01:26:06,070 --> 01:26:03,600
you know that when you get into the the

2401
01:26:08,709 --> 01:26:06,080
roswell thing that we're into here

2402
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:08,719
um there's one uh bit that talks about

2403
01:26:12,229 --> 01:26:10,400
it having for a time

2404
01:26:14,470 --> 01:26:12,239
been right here at norton air force base

2405
01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:14,480
which i can see from my house

2406
01:26:18,229 --> 01:26:16,080
former norton air force base which is

2407
01:26:18,950 --> 01:26:18,239
now san bernardino international airport

2408
01:26:21,910 --> 01:26:18,960
but

2409
01:26:23,189 --> 01:26:21,920
it's it's what it is is it's an airport

2410
01:26:25,030 --> 01:26:23,199
that's used to repair

2411
01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:25,040
and refurbish aircraft commercial

2412
01:26:28,709 --> 01:26:26,400
aircraft but it was

2413
01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:28,719
norton air force base and according to

2414
01:26:31,830 --> 01:26:29,840
some sources

2415
01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:31,840
and i have that in my shimmering light

2416
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:33,360
book

2417
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:35,280
it was stored right here the area where

2418
01:26:38,709 --> 01:26:36,480
i practically you know

2419
01:26:40,629 --> 01:26:38,719
spent most of my life and i didn't know

2420
01:26:42,870 --> 01:26:40,639
that until i was working on

2421
01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:42,880
um this book that's interesting yeah and

2422
01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:44,320
here here i'm showing this

2423
01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:46,719
slide where we see there's advanced this

2424
01:26:49,990 --> 01:26:48,320
may lead to some of the conspiracies

2425
01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:50,000
about aliens and vats

2426
01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:52,000
and things you know because right there

2427
01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:53,040
truly is

2428
01:26:59,110 --> 01:26:56,400
a real tunnel system underneath

2429
01:27:00,149 --> 01:26:59,120
underneath ray patterson airport and a

2430
01:27:01,510 --> 01:27:00,159
lot of people believe

2431
01:27:03,590 --> 01:27:01,520
that the tunnels is where they're

2432
01:27:05,750 --> 01:27:03,600
storing those aliens walter bosley yeah

2433
01:27:07,590 --> 01:27:05,760
i was told about it the day i reported

2434
01:27:10,870 --> 01:27:07,600
for duty at wright patterson

2435
01:27:12,310 --> 01:27:10,880
um right before i got there is

2436
01:27:14,629 --> 01:27:12,320
i believe it was right before i got

2437
01:27:17,350 --> 01:27:14,639
there they had wrapped up the um

2438
01:27:17,990 --> 01:27:17,360
the kosovo peace talks they were doing

2439
01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:18,000
those in the

2440
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:20,639
underground facility at wright pat they

2441
01:27:24,950 --> 01:27:21,920
brought in the serbian

2442
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:24,960
and the um bosnian representatives and

2443
01:27:29,270 --> 01:27:27,760
um they were doing those negotiations

2444
01:27:31,750 --> 01:27:29,280
right there underneath um

2445
01:27:32,310 --> 01:27:31,760
and when you're on the base you see you

2446
01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:32,320
know those

2447
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:35,040
i call them mushrooms those uh those air

2448
01:27:38,149 --> 01:27:35,840
vents

2449
01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:38,159
yeah they're all over the base i know i

2450
01:27:42,550 --> 01:27:39,600
look for somebody else they're on the

2451
01:27:44,149 --> 01:27:42,560
ground you can see them

2452
01:27:45,830 --> 01:27:44,159
and you know they were telling me and

2453
01:27:47,590 --> 01:27:45,840
they were pointing out yeah see that's

2454
01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:47,600
some of the air vents for it i know

2455
01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:49,360
somebody that got on the base and took

2456
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:50,800
pictures of that and sent them to me and

2457
01:27:54,629 --> 01:27:51,520
said see

2458
01:27:55,990 --> 01:27:54,639
steve these are vents going down to the

2459
01:27:58,550 --> 01:27:56,000
alien body

2460
01:27:59,830 --> 01:27:58,560
chambers or something yeah but see these

2461
01:28:01,590 --> 01:27:59,840
are just so funny that

2462
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:01,600
things are actually real like there

2463
01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:03,360
really is a tunnel system underneath the

2464
01:28:06,310 --> 01:28:04,080
space

2465
01:28:07,510 --> 01:28:06,320
and there really is these air vents kind

2466
01:28:10,070 --> 01:28:07,520
of gets

2467
01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:10,080
you know used as proof almost to some of

2468
01:28:15,110 --> 01:28:12,719
these conspiracies right

2469
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:15,120
yeah people i what what it does indeed

2470
01:28:18,550 --> 01:28:17,040
prove is that there's a facility

2471
01:28:20,310 --> 01:28:18,560
you know a sub-training facility a

2472
01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:20,320
facility underground but that's all it

2473
01:28:24,149 --> 01:28:21,040
proves

2474
01:28:26,709 --> 01:28:24,159
you know um the rest is uh

2475
01:28:27,669 --> 01:28:26,719
you know conjecture little circumstance

2476
01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:27,679
i guess

2477
01:28:31,510 --> 01:28:30,239
you know a little a little less than

2478
01:28:33,189 --> 01:28:31,520
credible

2479
01:28:35,430 --> 01:28:33,199
to believe this stuff but to the true

2480
01:28:37,669 --> 01:28:35,440
believers you know they want to believe

2481
01:28:41,430 --> 01:28:37,679
so i guess they look towards that

2482
01:28:44,229 --> 01:28:41,440
as some sort of uh some sort of proof

2483
01:28:45,110 --> 01:28:44,239
to you know confirm what they already

2484
01:28:47,189 --> 01:28:45,120
want to believe

2485
01:28:48,950 --> 01:28:47,199
right well yeah they jump the shark with

2486
01:28:49,430 --> 01:28:48,960
it they just take too big of a leap and

2487
01:28:52,709 --> 01:28:49,440
they

2488
01:28:54,790 --> 01:28:52,719
know

2489
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:54,800
cooling their jets and saying well at

2490
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:56,000
least this proves

2491
01:28:59,750 --> 01:28:58,560
a piece of that now let's go to the next

2492
01:29:02,950 --> 01:28:59,760
step that's

2493
01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:02,960
that's what the more rational mind does

2494
01:29:07,990 --> 01:29:06,320
wow and so yeah i guess uh

2495
01:29:10,229 --> 01:29:08,000
you know you left me with more questions

2496
01:29:10,550 --> 01:29:10,239
than answers though tonight what but

2497
01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:10,560
that's

2498
01:29:13,750 --> 01:29:11,840
wait is that the photo you were talking

2499
01:29:15,669 --> 01:29:13,760
about where i looked pissed no

2500
01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:15,679
it was the other one i controlled okay i

2501
01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:17,120
was gonna say that one i was in a

2502
01:29:21,590 --> 01:29:18,960
hey guess where i was where i was the

2503
01:29:24,229 --> 01:29:21,600
day that that photo was taken

2504
01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:24,239
i was at the history channel alien con

2505
01:29:28,390 --> 01:29:24,880
which

2506
01:29:30,310 --> 01:29:28,400
features uh ancient aliens and i

2507
01:29:32,310 --> 01:29:30,320
met my good friend you know my friend

2508
01:29:32,709 --> 01:29:32,320
david childress in fact i had dinner

2509
01:29:35,110 --> 01:29:32,719
with

2510
01:29:37,189 --> 01:29:35,120
him and his wife afterwards at another

2511
01:29:39,350 --> 01:29:37,199
mutual friend's house in pasadena

2512
01:29:40,470 --> 01:29:39,360
and uh you know saw giorgio there who i

2513
01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:40,480
had met about

2514
01:29:44,790 --> 01:29:43,120
16 years ago i kind of like children's i

2515
01:29:46,149 --> 01:29:44,800
got a couple of his books

2516
01:29:49,430 --> 01:29:46,159
you know i think he's kind of full of

2517
01:29:51,270 --> 01:29:49,440
[\h__\h] but he seems like a real nice guy

2518
01:29:52,870 --> 01:29:51,280
that's what i'll say about mr children

2519
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:52,880
it seems so likable

2520
01:29:56,709 --> 01:29:54,880
that you want to believe him you know

2521
01:29:58,470 --> 01:29:56,719
he's a very personable guy

2522
01:30:00,149 --> 01:29:58,480
and he doesn't get ruffled if you

2523
01:30:01,350 --> 01:30:00,159
disagree with him on stuff like you know

2524
01:30:03,910 --> 01:30:01,360
some people get ruffled

2525
01:30:05,910 --> 01:30:03,920
right and he doesn't and i'll tell you i

2526
01:30:07,030 --> 01:30:05,920
recommend i highly recommend to anybody

2527
01:30:09,430 --> 01:30:07,040
if you like travel

2528
01:30:10,470 --> 01:30:09,440
or you're interested in travel go on one

2529
01:30:12,870 --> 01:30:10,480
of his uh

2530
01:30:13,910 --> 01:30:12,880
world explorer club trips to the ancient

2531
01:30:15,510 --> 01:30:13,920
ruins in mexico

2532
01:30:16,950 --> 01:30:15,520
i gotta do that yeah i gotta do that

2533
01:30:18,390 --> 01:30:16,960
someday

2534
01:30:19,990 --> 01:30:18,400
even if my wife and i want to see all

2535
01:30:21,910 --> 01:30:20,000
the pyramids we want to see the nazca

2536
01:30:22,550 --> 01:30:21,920
pyramids and the egyptian pyramids

2537
01:30:25,669 --> 01:30:22,560
someday

2538
01:30:27,270 --> 01:30:25,679
hopefully yeah yeah and so i got another

2539
01:30:29,030 --> 01:30:27,280
question for you again if this violates

2540
01:30:30,470 --> 01:30:29,040
security oaths or any of that stuff

2541
01:30:32,310 --> 01:30:30,480
people should show that you worked on

2542
01:30:33,110 --> 01:30:32,320
secret projects for the air force and

2543
01:30:35,110 --> 01:30:33,120
the

2544
01:30:37,030 --> 01:30:35,120
office of special investigations and you

2545
01:30:38,790 --> 01:30:37,040
had real top secret clearance unlike a

2546
01:30:41,110 --> 01:30:38,800
lot of these fake clowns that

2547
01:30:42,709 --> 01:30:41,120
claimed they had cosmic did you have

2548
01:30:46,149 --> 01:30:42,719
cosmic clearance

2549
01:30:47,830 --> 01:30:46,159
gloves doesn't exist right but you know

2550
01:30:49,189 --> 01:30:47,840
but you had real clearance you had real

2551
01:30:52,470 --> 01:30:49,199
top secret clearance

2552
01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:52,480
yeah i i from day one i was 24 years old

2553
01:30:56,790 --> 01:30:54,480
when i reported for duty to the fbi

2554
01:31:00,229 --> 01:30:56,800
in los angeles at 11 000 wilshire

2555
01:31:01,990 --> 01:31:00,239
boulevard on the 14th of march 1988

2556
01:31:03,430 --> 01:31:02,000
and i had a top secret clearance when i

2557
01:31:04,390 --> 01:31:03,440
walked in the door because that's part

2558
01:31:07,270 --> 01:31:04,400
of your background

2559
01:31:07,990 --> 01:31:07,280
i had a top secret clearance my whole

2560
01:31:10,470 --> 01:31:08,000
career

2561
01:31:13,110 --> 01:31:10,480
and i started with the fbi as a mail

2562
01:31:14,870 --> 01:31:13,120
clerk i was a mail clerk for 45 days now

2563
01:31:16,149 --> 01:31:14,880
the first day i reported i was pulled

2564
01:31:17,830 --> 01:31:16,159
aside into a room

2565
01:31:19,430 --> 01:31:17,840
and the counterintelligence surveillance

2566
01:31:22,149 --> 01:31:19,440
team supervisor said look

2567
01:31:23,510 --> 01:31:22,159
fill out this in-house form and it might

2568
01:31:25,350 --> 01:31:23,520
take a couple of months but we want to

2569
01:31:27,270 --> 01:31:25,360
get you in counter intelligence okay

2570
01:31:28,390 --> 01:31:27,280
great so i went in reported for duty i

2571
01:31:30,470 --> 01:31:28,400
was a male clerk

2572
01:31:32,229 --> 01:31:30,480
for 45 days and then i got promoted to

2573
01:31:34,629 --> 01:31:32,239
evidence technician i was an evidence

2574
01:31:36,390 --> 01:31:34,639
technician in los angeles for six months

2575
01:31:38,629 --> 01:31:36,400
they sent me up to san jose where i was

2576
01:31:41,750 --> 01:31:38,639
an evidence technician for two months

2577
01:31:43,750 --> 01:31:41,760
and then got into the surveillance team

2578
01:31:44,870 --> 01:31:43,760
program and counterintelligence and at

2579
01:31:48,229 --> 01:31:44,880
that point

2580
01:31:48,709 --> 01:31:48,239
they added to my ts what we call in the

2581
01:31:51,270 --> 01:31:48,719
business

2582
01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:51,280
tickets and these are letter you know

2583
01:31:55,270 --> 01:31:52,960
it's levels of clearance

2584
01:31:57,030 --> 01:31:55,280
denoted by letters which i i can't tell

2585
01:31:58,390 --> 01:31:57,040
you what mine are i have x number of

2586
01:31:59,189 --> 01:31:58,400
tickets and they're such and such

2587
01:32:03,110 --> 01:31:59,199
letters

2588
01:32:03,590 --> 01:32:03,120
and um uh and when i got into the air

2589
01:32:06,470 --> 01:32:03,600
force

2590
01:32:07,590 --> 01:32:06,480
you know the the i was cleared for weird

2591
01:32:11,510 --> 01:32:07,600
as we say and

2592
01:32:14,470 --> 01:32:11,520
and that's when now i was ts

2593
01:32:15,590 --> 01:32:14,480
sci with my tickets which i can't

2594
01:32:18,790 --> 01:32:15,600
specify

2595
01:32:19,590 --> 01:32:18,800
um was with the bureau and then when i

2596
01:32:23,189 --> 01:32:19,600
went into the

2597
01:32:25,910 --> 01:32:23,199
air force i was ts sci

2598
01:32:27,270 --> 01:32:25,920
and i was an additional to that the

2599
01:32:29,590 --> 01:32:27,280
acronym additional

2600
01:32:30,790 --> 01:32:29,600
i was for i mean look they impress upon

2601
01:32:32,870 --> 01:32:30,800
you you're not supposed to talk about

2602
01:32:33,669 --> 01:32:32,880
this acronym publicly or to unauthorized

2603
01:32:35,510 --> 01:32:33,679
people right

2604
01:32:36,950 --> 01:32:35,520
and so for years i honored that you

2605
01:32:38,629 --> 01:32:36,960
weren't it was kind of sensitive

2606
01:32:40,070 --> 01:32:38,639
i'm not saying other people didn't talk

2607
01:32:40,790 --> 01:32:40,080
about it but i'm saying you know i

2608
01:32:42,629 --> 01:32:40,800
couldn't

2609
01:32:43,910 --> 01:32:42,639
and then hillary clinton goes talking

2610
01:32:47,590 --> 01:32:43,920
about it in her campaign

2611
01:32:49,430 --> 01:32:47,600
a sap a special access program okay

2612
01:32:51,110 --> 01:32:49,440
so then the message is if higher ups and

2613
01:32:52,390 --> 01:32:51,120
the government are saying that then

2614
01:32:54,709 --> 01:32:52,400
you're allowed to right

2615
01:32:56,950 --> 01:32:54,719
yeah well it gets to where okay gee it's

2616
01:33:00,470 --> 01:32:56,960
ridiculous so yeah i was ts

2617
01:33:03,750 --> 01:33:00,480
sci with my tickets and i what i did

2618
01:33:06,390 --> 01:33:03,760
at right pat was a sap essentially

2619
01:33:08,070 --> 01:33:06,400
okay well no i when you say the word

2620
01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:08,080
essentially people go oh then it wasn't

2621
01:33:13,910 --> 01:33:08,400
it

2622
01:33:15,510 --> 01:33:13,920
but i'm still you know here what i'm

2623
01:33:17,350 --> 01:33:15,520
trying to get to though is yeah you had

2624
01:33:18,870 --> 01:33:17,360
real prop secret clearance you worked on

2625
01:33:20,070 --> 01:33:18,880
these secret projects you worked in the

2626
01:33:21,270 --> 01:33:20,080
air force office of special

2627
01:33:23,910 --> 01:33:21,280
investigations

2628
01:33:24,390 --> 01:33:23,920
so i want to know if you ever saw any

2629
01:33:28,229 --> 01:33:24,400
kind of

2630
01:33:30,550 --> 01:33:28,239
exotic aircraft that

2631
01:33:33,110 --> 01:33:30,560
may be anti-gravity in nature or if you

2632
01:33:35,510 --> 01:33:33,120
saw alien bodies or tissue samples or

2633
01:33:38,790 --> 01:33:35,520
anything of aliens or anything like that

2634
01:33:40,070 --> 01:33:38,800
in all of your time well one day when i

2635
01:33:43,910 --> 01:33:40,080
was at wright labs

2636
01:33:45,750 --> 01:33:43,920
i was in there having um uh uh

2637
01:33:47,030 --> 01:33:45,760
oh [\h__\h] what's this i knew this was a

2638
01:33:49,270 --> 01:33:47,040
good question

2639
01:33:50,950 --> 01:33:49,280
yeah i i was having coffee oh and you

2640
01:33:52,629 --> 01:33:50,960
worked at wright patterson air force

2641
01:33:54,550 --> 01:33:52,639
base yeah

2642
01:33:56,870 --> 01:33:54,560
he worked at the place where everybody

2643
01:34:01,350 --> 01:33:56,880
says those bodies are in cold storage so

2644
01:34:05,189 --> 01:34:03,510
i was having coffee with emery smith

2645
01:34:06,229 --> 01:34:05,199
while he was doing all his autopsies oh

2646
01:34:08,070 --> 01:34:06,239
i'm just kidding

2647
01:34:09,430 --> 01:34:08,080
um no god damn it i thought you're going

2648
01:34:10,870 --> 01:34:09,440
to give us something good

2649
01:34:13,030 --> 01:34:10,880
i was trying to get to the punch line

2650
01:34:16,390 --> 01:34:13,040
there i worked

2651
01:34:19,750 --> 01:34:16,400
yes i worked at wright patterson um and

2652
01:34:21,030 --> 01:34:19,760
uh as i said cleared for weird i had to

2653
01:34:23,669 --> 01:34:21,040
go to the vault

2654
01:34:24,070 --> 01:34:23,679
you know several times the the the vault

2655
01:34:27,110 --> 01:34:24,080
where

2656
01:34:31,030 --> 01:34:27,120
you read secrety dekitty stuff and

2657
01:34:33,350 --> 01:34:31,040
um no i never saw an alien body

2658
01:34:35,110 --> 01:34:33,360
or any tissue samples or anything like

2659
01:34:37,510 --> 01:34:35,120
that while i was in the vault

2660
01:34:39,590 --> 01:34:37,520
on a couple of occasions uh there was

2661
01:34:43,109 --> 01:34:39,600
stuff i had to read

2662
01:34:46,629 --> 01:34:43,119
and there was some exotic technology

2663
01:34:48,629 --> 01:34:46,639
in that and uh which you know kind of

2664
01:34:52,629 --> 01:34:48,639
raise my eyebrows

2665
01:34:56,229 --> 01:34:52,639
and i will say this this is why

2666
01:35:00,149 --> 01:34:56,239
i say that

2667
01:35:03,109 --> 01:35:00,159
i think 90 of what people have seen

2668
01:35:04,470 --> 01:35:03,119
that they're reporting as ufos uh is

2669
01:35:08,070 --> 01:35:04,480
probably

2670
01:35:08,790 --> 01:35:08,080
um advanced dod technology i'll put it

2671
01:35:10,790 --> 01:35:08,800
that way

2672
01:35:12,310 --> 01:35:10,800
this this is one of the rei you know i'm

2673
01:35:13,750 --> 01:35:12,320
not just saying that well i was in the

2674
01:35:16,870 --> 01:35:13,760
osi believe me

2675
01:35:19,030 --> 01:35:16,880
you know no it's because of the

2676
01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:19,040
technology i saw now also

2677
01:35:23,270 --> 01:35:22,000
in my duties in my specialty at

2678
01:35:26,229 --> 01:35:23,280
wright-patterson

2679
01:35:27,270 --> 01:35:26,239
i dealt with classified aircraft

2680
01:35:30,470 --> 01:35:27,280
technology

2681
01:35:34,310 --> 01:35:30,480
uh virtually every day okay

2682
01:35:37,109 --> 01:35:34,320
um and you know so i was

2683
01:35:38,070 --> 01:35:37,119
briefed in and exposed to some stuff

2684
01:35:41,430 --> 01:35:38,080
that

2685
01:35:43,830 --> 01:35:41,440
uh again could be confused if the

2686
01:35:45,669 --> 01:35:43,840
the the civilian who isn't aware of what

2687
01:35:46,709 --> 01:35:45,679
this is could be confused with some type

2688
01:35:48,229 --> 01:35:46,719
of vt

2689
01:35:50,229 --> 01:35:48,239
thing now am i saying it was a flying

2690
01:35:54,629 --> 01:35:50,239
saucer no i'm not saying that

2691
01:35:57,350 --> 01:35:54,639
um at la i was briefed in on some stuff

2692
01:35:58,390 --> 01:35:57,360
that was you know pretty you know on the

2693
01:36:00,310 --> 01:35:58,400
outer space level

2694
01:36:02,629 --> 01:36:00,320
some technology stuff they were doing

2695
01:36:05,109 --> 01:36:02,639
notice how vague i'm staying

2696
01:36:06,950 --> 01:36:05,119
saying this but i want to emphasize none

2697
01:36:09,750 --> 01:36:06,960
of it was a flying saucer

2698
01:36:11,510 --> 01:36:09,760
or anything you know like that but all

2699
01:36:12,310 --> 01:36:11,520
right let's throw down a little bit did

2700
01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:12,320
you see

2701
01:36:16,709 --> 01:36:15,040
any sort of exotic propulsion systems

2702
01:36:21,189 --> 01:36:16,719
other than standard things like

2703
01:36:24,390 --> 01:36:21,199
prop driven or jet engines

2704
01:36:27,430 --> 01:36:24,400
yes um i well i saw

2705
01:36:30,310 --> 01:36:27,440
i saw some good hold on

2706
01:36:31,109 --> 01:36:30,320
i saw some pretty exotic stuff remember

2707
01:36:33,750 --> 01:36:31,119
at the time

2708
01:36:35,590 --> 01:36:33,760
for the it was in the 90s the late 90s

2709
01:36:38,790 --> 01:36:35,600
that was um

2710
01:36:41,910 --> 01:36:38,800
it was like the next level of

2711
01:36:45,590 --> 01:36:41,920
jet technology

2712
01:36:48,390 --> 01:36:45,600
that was pretty cool which was

2713
01:36:50,709 --> 01:36:48,400
you know was pretty advanced stuff like

2714
01:36:52,149 --> 01:36:50,719
methane powered pulse jet engines and

2715
01:36:53,750 --> 01:36:52,159
things like that that have been

2716
01:36:56,709 --> 01:36:53,760
about popular signs i wouldn't tell you

2717
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:56,719
what it is if you guessed sorry

2718
01:37:00,070 --> 01:36:59,199
do you see but but this was stuff that

2719
01:37:03,669 --> 01:37:00,080
was going to be

2720
01:37:06,950 --> 01:37:03,679
used on aircraft or or as we say

2721
01:37:07,350 --> 01:37:06,960
um you know air forms or air platforms

2722
01:37:09,830 --> 01:37:07,360
you know

2723
01:37:10,550 --> 01:37:09,840
uh platforms is a word that that was

2724
01:37:13,669 --> 01:37:10,560
used and

2725
01:37:14,870 --> 01:37:13,679
i remember um what's his name ray what's

2726
01:37:16,229 --> 01:37:14,880
his name

2727
01:37:19,030 --> 01:37:16,239
shoot he's the guy that says he's got

2728
01:37:21,350 --> 01:37:19,040
the evidence but he never

2729
01:37:22,629 --> 01:37:21,360
shows it no that could be a hundred guys

2730
01:37:25,590 --> 01:37:22,639
he he wrote the book about

2731
01:37:27,350 --> 01:37:25,600
fatima and shoot what's his you guys

2732
01:37:30,550 --> 01:37:27,360
know who i'm talking about out there

2733
01:37:31,910 --> 01:37:30,560
anyway he once got pissed off at me on

2734
01:37:34,070 --> 01:37:31,920
greg bishop's show

2735
01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:34,080
greg bishop was talking with him because

2736
01:37:38,629 --> 01:37:36,719
i i used the term platform and he and he

2737
01:37:40,709 --> 01:37:38,639
said in all his years being around dod

2738
01:37:42,709 --> 01:37:40,719
in the air force he's ray stanford

2739
01:37:44,149 --> 01:37:42,719
ray stanford yeah he thought that i had

2740
01:37:46,390 --> 01:37:44,159
no credibility

2741
01:37:47,990 --> 01:37:46,400
uh because i used the word platform

2742
01:37:52,470 --> 01:37:48,000
which sorry ray i

2743
01:37:54,790 --> 01:37:52,480
had the word platform is something that

2744
01:37:57,430 --> 01:37:54,800
was used you know in my time

2745
01:37:59,030 --> 01:37:57,440
so and the reason it's used is think

2746
01:38:02,870 --> 01:37:59,040
about this think about this

2747
01:38:04,790 --> 01:38:02,880
the aircraft denotes implies a certain

2748
01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:04,800
type of thing in the sky right

2749
01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:08,080
so if you use a more uh a vague

2750
01:38:11,830 --> 01:38:10,480
platform type word well that could be

2751
01:38:14,310 --> 01:38:11,840
anything that could be

2752
01:38:15,030 --> 01:38:14,320
a fighter craft that could be a bomber

2753
01:38:18,149 --> 01:38:15,040
that could be

2754
01:38:21,990 --> 01:38:18,159
that's not an

2755
01:38:24,229 --> 01:38:22,000
airplane right um so you know

2756
01:38:26,070 --> 01:38:24,239
i find the nomenclature sometimes here's

2757
01:38:28,870 --> 01:38:26,080
what i i do think

2758
01:38:29,189 --> 01:38:28,880
the way they brief you in on things you

2759
01:38:33,189 --> 01:38:29,199
you

2760
01:38:34,870 --> 01:38:33,199
and learn details and get briefed in on

2761
01:38:36,790 --> 01:38:34,880
things the way you they brief you on

2762
01:38:38,390 --> 01:38:36,800
your levels these tickets i'm talking

2763
01:38:40,870 --> 01:38:38,400
about your clearance levels

2764
01:38:43,189 --> 01:38:40,880
it's done in this interesting way if

2765
01:38:44,790 --> 01:38:43,199
you've ever

2766
01:38:46,550 --> 01:38:44,800
studied language and they give you a

2767
01:38:51,109 --> 01:38:46,560
language aptitude test

2768
01:38:55,030 --> 01:38:51,119
use a real language it uses a

2769
01:38:57,830 --> 01:38:55,040
a a fake language so that they can test

2770
01:39:00,149 --> 01:38:57,840
your aptitude for learning new languages

2771
01:39:01,510 --> 01:39:00,159
okay could that be so that you can talk

2772
01:39:03,910 --> 01:39:01,520
to aliens if you

2773
01:39:04,550 --> 01:39:03,920
get to meet honor no no no no no it's

2774
01:39:06,390 --> 01:39:04,560
it's but

2775
01:39:08,870 --> 01:39:06,400
but it's similar in how they read to you

2776
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:08,880
your levels they brief you

2777
01:39:12,709 --> 01:39:10,880
um when you're getting your security

2778
01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:12,719
clearance levels they brief you

2779
01:39:17,669 --> 01:39:15,840
in the more general sense because you're

2780
01:39:19,430 --> 01:39:17,679
briefed up to a certain level so that in

2781
01:39:21,750 --> 01:39:19,440
your job and duties you will either be

2782
01:39:24,390 --> 01:39:21,760
briefed further in or be exposed to

2783
01:39:25,990 --> 01:39:24,400
the specific things that fall under that

2784
01:39:28,229 --> 01:39:26,000
level if that makes sense

2785
01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:28,239
and i will say that the the level i was

2786
01:39:33,270 --> 01:39:29,520
briefed into

2787
01:39:36,790 --> 01:39:33,280
with osi was on the outer space level

2788
01:39:38,390 --> 01:39:36,800
okay so that in the course of my duties

2789
01:39:41,750 --> 01:39:38,400
when i was exposed to that stuff

2790
01:39:44,790 --> 01:39:41,760
i was covered interesting

2791
01:39:45,990 --> 01:39:44,800
and i will say that the the the level i

2792
01:39:48,550 --> 01:39:46,000
was at when i was in

2793
01:39:49,830 --> 01:39:48,560
saudi arabia i was the only during my

2794
01:39:51,910 --> 01:39:49,840
time at the detachment

2795
01:39:53,189 --> 01:39:51,920
i was the only agent there who had the

2796
01:39:56,470 --> 01:39:53,199
clearance level

2797
01:39:58,950 --> 01:39:56,480
to see the highest level of

2798
01:40:00,390 --> 01:39:58,960
intel we were getting in our duties

2799
01:40:01,669 --> 01:40:00,400
there in fact they would call me like in

2800
01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:01,679
the middle of the night and i'd have to

2801
01:40:06,950 --> 01:40:04,000
go over to the intel unit and

2802
01:40:09,189 --> 01:40:06,960
and i'd have to it was a very it was one

2803
01:40:10,070 --> 01:40:09,199
special thing that you would look at

2804
01:40:12,229 --> 01:40:10,080
that

2805
01:40:14,070 --> 01:40:12,239
you could read this data it didn't come

2806
01:40:15,669 --> 01:40:14,080
through on the regular computers

2807
01:40:17,669 --> 01:40:15,679
and i had the clearance i was the only

2808
01:40:19,030 --> 01:40:17,679
agent in my deployed detachment that had

2809
01:40:21,109 --> 01:40:19,040
that clearance

2810
01:40:22,229 --> 01:40:21,119
and uh you know to see that kind of

2811
01:40:23,990 --> 01:40:22,239
thing so um

2812
01:40:25,270 --> 01:40:24,000
and and i share these kind of details

2813
01:40:27,270 --> 01:40:25,280
just to you know

2814
01:40:28,550 --> 01:40:27,280
to help support the bona fides to you

2815
01:40:30,790 --> 01:40:28,560
know those who know what i'm talking

2816
01:40:31,990 --> 01:40:30,800
about oh i got all your records so i

2817
01:40:35,189 --> 01:40:32,000
know you're

2818
01:40:37,109 --> 01:40:35,199
real before we

2819
01:40:39,109 --> 01:40:37,119
before we ever talked the first time i

2820
01:40:41,910 --> 01:40:39,119
had all your records just

2821
01:40:43,830 --> 01:40:41,920
just putting that out there when you say

2822
01:40:44,870 --> 01:40:43,840
all my records well not all of them but

2823
01:40:47,109 --> 01:40:44,880
i have i have

2824
01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:47,119
i did enough research to verify that you

2825
01:40:51,830 --> 01:40:50,000
were did you get anything from st louis

2826
01:40:53,030 --> 01:40:51,840
uh i'd have to go back over the folder

2827
01:40:55,030 --> 01:40:53,040
and it's on another computer

2828
01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:55,040
i'm probably able to get my dd-214 right

2829
01:40:59,910 --> 01:40:56,639
because i believe that i did and then

2830
01:41:02,229 --> 01:40:59,920
later you sent me another copy of it

2831
01:41:03,910 --> 01:41:02,239
yours was somehow more updated than mine

2832
01:41:05,030 --> 01:41:03,920
mine must have been years old or

2833
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:05,040
something because it look

2834
01:41:08,229 --> 01:41:07,119
it didn't list your last few things or

2835
01:41:11,030 --> 01:41:08,239
something like that

2836
01:41:12,310 --> 01:41:11,040
really yeah i think so as i recall i

2837
01:41:15,669 --> 01:41:12,320
could get back to you on that

2838
01:41:17,669 --> 01:41:15,679
but i have another question then i i i

2839
01:41:19,109 --> 01:41:17,679
before he died i got to talk to stan

2840
01:41:21,270 --> 01:41:19,119
freeman a bunch of times only

2841
01:41:23,109 --> 01:41:21,280
a very nice man yes only interviewed him

2842
01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:23,119
officially once and he told me a lot of

2843
01:41:26,229 --> 01:41:23,920
really

2844
01:41:28,149 --> 01:41:26,239
strange stories about the government's

2845
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:28,159
one-time obsession with

2846
01:41:32,149 --> 01:41:29,760
trying to propel aircraft with

2847
01:41:33,510 --> 01:41:32,159
nuclear-powered jets or rockets right

2848
01:41:36,390 --> 01:41:33,520
did you see anything

2849
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:36,400
uh about that while you had the secret

2850
01:41:40,629 --> 01:41:37,520
clearance

2851
01:41:41,030 --> 01:41:40,639
no i i didn't see anything about that at

2852
01:41:44,870 --> 01:41:41,040
all

2853
01:41:45,910 --> 01:41:44,880
i i will say that that one thing i did

2854
01:41:48,149 --> 01:41:45,920
read

2855
01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:48,159
was in the vault just to give you a

2856
01:41:52,430 --> 01:41:50,159
little taste a little piece of candy

2857
01:41:53,750 --> 01:41:52,440
um i i read you know something about

2858
01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:53,760
electrogravitics

2859
01:41:57,510 --> 01:41:55,360
you know that t townsend brown type

2860
01:41:59,510 --> 01:41:57,520
stuff sure yeah the problem i have with

2861
01:42:00,070 --> 01:41:59,520
electrogravitics is that i looked into

2862
01:42:03,030 --> 01:42:00,080
it myself

2863
01:42:05,510 --> 01:42:03,040
i'm into electronics and like you can

2864
01:42:07,669 --> 01:42:05,520
only produce a tiny tiny exactly

2865
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:07,679
thrust so to me you're not you're not

2866
01:42:10,629 --> 01:42:09,760
getting an aircraft off the ground with

2867
01:42:13,910 --> 01:42:10,639
that but it's

2868
01:42:14,790 --> 01:42:13,920
it's the interesting thing is um it it

2869
01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:14,800
makes me

2870
01:42:19,109 --> 01:42:17,199
wonder at the time i remember wondering

2871
01:42:21,590 --> 01:42:19,119
oh wow this is interesting

2872
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:21,600
what direction did the air force take

2873
01:42:26,070 --> 01:42:22,880
this that makes

2874
01:42:27,590 --> 01:42:26,080
after yeah maybe they figured it out

2875
01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:27,600
yeah maybe they figured it out and maybe

2876
01:42:33,430 --> 01:42:30,239
they figured out how to amp up the

2877
01:42:34,070 --> 01:42:33,440
side product maybe electrographics as

2878
01:42:36,629 --> 01:42:34,080
such like

2879
01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:36,639
chao burger as such doesn't work but

2880
01:42:39,910 --> 01:42:38,080
maybe there was some little

2881
01:42:41,750 --> 01:42:39,920
element some little thread in there that

2882
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:41,760
some guy said oh hey wait a minute if we

2883
01:42:43,590 --> 01:42:42,000
do

2884
01:42:45,109 --> 01:42:43,600
this and then they got something out of

2885
01:42:47,669 --> 01:42:45,119
that right sure

2886
01:42:49,189 --> 01:42:47,679
sure and listen mr bosley i just want to

2887
01:42:50,870 --> 01:42:49,199
thank you because i'm looking in the

2888
01:42:52,790 --> 01:42:50,880
live chat and there's a lot of new

2889
01:42:55,270 --> 01:42:52,800
people that have not been here

2890
01:42:56,149 --> 01:42:55,280
okay that i'm aware of at least

2891
01:42:58,149 --> 01:42:56,159
previously

2892
01:42:59,750 --> 01:42:58,159
it looks like we've pulled in a lot of

2893
01:43:01,109 --> 01:42:59,760
people that this is their first time so

2894
01:43:03,030 --> 01:43:01,119
i want to thank you for

2895
01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:03,040
helping to bring a lot more people here

2896
01:43:08,070 --> 01:43:05,199
and introduce people to the show

2897
01:43:10,950 --> 01:43:08,080
and i also want to ask you about this

2898
01:43:13,350 --> 01:43:10,960
book the esoteric napoleon

2899
01:43:14,550 --> 01:43:13,360
i'm going to share my screen i have it

2900
01:43:17,430 --> 01:43:14,560
on my list here

2901
01:43:18,070 --> 01:43:17,440
i i haven't gotten it yet because i got

2902
01:43:20,390 --> 01:43:18,080
um

2903
01:43:22,070 --> 01:43:20,400
i've got two other books ahead of you

2904
01:43:25,430 --> 01:43:22,080
sorry

2905
01:43:28,870 --> 01:43:25,440
but uh i like history and i like

2906
01:43:30,629 --> 01:43:28,880
secret stuff so this seems very

2907
01:43:32,390 --> 01:43:30,639
much up my alley i'm gonna read the

2908
01:43:33,510 --> 01:43:32,400
description it's from amazon the

2909
01:43:36,470 --> 01:43:33,520
esoteric

2910
01:43:37,990 --> 01:43:36,480
napoleon uh in this fourth installment

2911
01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:38,000
of the secret mission series the

2912
01:43:42,149 --> 01:43:40,000
author presents his hypothesis involving

2913
01:43:43,430 --> 01:43:42,159
the legendary historical figure napoleon

2914
01:43:45,430 --> 01:43:43,440
bonaparte

2915
01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:45,440
what was he searching for in egypt what

2916
01:43:50,149 --> 01:43:47,760
happened to him inside the great pyramid

2917
01:43:51,669 --> 01:43:50,159
what was the secret of napoleon's

2918
01:43:54,790 --> 01:43:51,679
ancestry and why

2919
01:43:56,709 --> 01:43:54,800
was the european oligarchy so concerned

2920
01:43:58,629 --> 01:43:56,719
what was napoleon's association with the

2921
01:44:01,189 --> 01:43:58,639
mystery of oh you might need to help me

2922
01:44:04,070 --> 01:44:01,199
with that ren's last chateau

2923
01:44:06,950 --> 01:44:04,080
these questions i'm sorry go ahead rent

2924
01:44:10,629 --> 01:44:08,790
these questions and many more are posed

2925
01:44:12,229 --> 01:44:10,639
in this first volume of walter bosni's

2926
01:44:13,990 --> 01:44:12,239
unique examination of one of the

2927
01:44:16,310 --> 01:44:14,000
greatest and purposefully

2928
01:44:17,109 --> 01:44:16,320
mischaracterized men who ever lived i

2929
01:44:19,430 --> 01:44:17,119
never heard

2930
01:44:22,149 --> 01:44:19,440
anything about napoleon and going to

2931
01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:24,149
it's fascinating to me you want to tell

2932
01:44:27,030 --> 01:44:25,600
us what he was looking for there or do

2933
01:44:28,709 --> 01:44:27,040
we have to read the book

2934
01:44:30,229 --> 01:44:28,719
give us a taste can you give us a taste

2935
01:44:32,229 --> 01:44:30,239
of what he was well i i

2936
01:44:34,070 --> 01:44:32,239
look napoleon bonehart wow it's hard to

2937
01:44:38,070 --> 01:44:34,080
give just a taste but i'll i'll

2938
01:44:40,390 --> 01:44:38,080
do my best basically in a nutshell um

2939
01:44:43,189 --> 01:44:40,400
the napoleon that i grew up hearing

2940
01:44:46,470 --> 01:44:43,199
about in school and in movies and stuff

2941
01:44:49,189 --> 01:44:46,480
is not the the full picture or the real

2942
01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:49,199
napoleon the true napoleon bonaparte

2943
01:44:54,149 --> 01:44:52,400
this was a brilliant man who actually uh

2944
01:44:55,030 --> 01:44:54,159
would have been just as happy believe it

2945
01:44:57,669 --> 01:44:55,040
or not had his

2946
01:44:58,629 --> 01:44:57,679
path taken him down the route of being a

2947
01:45:00,870 --> 01:44:58,639
scientist

2948
01:45:02,470 --> 01:45:00,880
or an archaeologist okay his path just

2949
01:45:03,910 --> 01:45:02,480
happened to lead him to the military

2950
01:45:05,030 --> 01:45:03,920
because when he was a child he was put

2951
01:45:07,990 --> 01:45:05,040
in military school

2952
01:45:09,669 --> 01:45:08,000
in france by his father now he he was

2953
01:45:11,590 --> 01:45:09,679
brilliant with mathematics

2954
01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:11,600
and that's what made him a brilliant

2955
01:45:15,270 --> 01:45:13,920
artillery officer but napoleon bonaparte

2956
01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:15,280
is studied to this day

2957
01:45:19,109 --> 01:45:17,760
by war colleges that's how amazing and

2958
01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:19,119
brilliant he was as

2959
01:45:22,790 --> 01:45:21,119
you know the strategy wise and as an

2960
01:45:26,550 --> 01:45:22,800
artillery officer and such

2961
01:45:29,430 --> 01:45:26,560
but his first love was ancient history

2962
01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:29,440
was science and archaeology and things

2963
01:45:34,709 --> 01:45:31,920
like that and he was surrounded by

2964
01:45:36,390 --> 01:45:34,719
um uh men who were interested in these

2965
01:45:37,590 --> 01:45:36,400
things and it was their profession to

2966
01:45:41,189 --> 01:45:37,600
pursue these things

2967
01:45:42,470 --> 01:45:41,199
his closest mentor was um uh i

2968
01:45:44,790 --> 01:45:42,480
think i'm getting the first name on

2969
01:45:48,629 --> 01:45:44,800
gaspar monge monge was

2970
01:45:51,990 --> 01:45:48,639
his last name anyway um napoleon

2971
01:45:55,030 --> 01:45:52,000
uh after his great successes and

2972
01:45:56,629 --> 01:45:55,040
his initial rise as a military officer

2973
01:45:58,390 --> 01:45:56,639
conquering italy and doing all this

2974
01:46:01,510 --> 01:45:58,400
stuff for france um

2975
01:46:04,550 --> 01:46:01,520
he begins to worry some of the oligarchy

2976
01:46:06,390 --> 01:46:04,560
um you know the elites of france the

2977
01:46:07,350 --> 01:46:06,400
political class of france because he's

2978
01:46:09,669 --> 01:46:07,360
getting real

2979
01:46:11,109 --> 01:46:09,679
well known and he's popular people like

2980
01:46:13,189 --> 01:46:11,119
him and

2981
01:46:15,430 --> 01:46:13,199
so when he suggests hey i would love to

2982
01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:15,440
go i have this vision for an expedition

2983
01:46:18,790 --> 01:46:15,760
to

2984
01:46:20,709 --> 01:46:18,800
egypt they say yeah yeah by all means

2985
01:46:23,189 --> 01:46:20,719
go to egypt they wanted him out of the

2986
01:46:26,390 --> 01:46:23,199
way but he takes to egypt

2987
01:46:27,990 --> 01:46:26,400
hundreds of um what

2988
01:46:29,669 --> 01:46:28,000
are called the savants these are

2989
01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:29,679
scientists these are archaeologists

2990
01:46:34,310 --> 01:46:30,880
historians

2991
01:46:36,390 --> 01:46:34,320
um astronomers um these guys who you get

2992
01:46:36,950 --> 01:46:36,400
into the hermetical sciences and the you

2993
01:46:41,350 --> 01:46:36,960
know

2994
01:46:41,750 --> 01:46:41,360
like that and so he goes off to egypt

2995
01:46:45,189 --> 01:46:41,760
and

2996
01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:45,199
not as quick as i thought it was going

2997
01:46:49,750 --> 01:46:45,760
to be

2998
01:46:51,590 --> 01:46:49,760
but i think that he was

2999
01:46:54,149 --> 01:46:51,600
looking for something along the lines of

3000
01:46:56,470 --> 01:46:54,159
that not just looking to fight you know

3001
01:46:58,229 --> 01:46:56,480
to conquer a route to india to route the

3002
01:46:58,950 --> 01:46:58,239
british and the russians and that was

3003
01:47:00,629 --> 01:46:58,960
part of it

3004
01:47:02,550 --> 01:47:00,639
but i really think that to him would

3005
01:47:06,149 --> 01:47:02,560
have been a side product i think the man

3006
01:47:08,390 --> 01:47:06,159
personally was looking for some answers

3007
01:47:11,270 --> 01:47:08,400
to the mysteries of ancient history

3008
01:47:12,229 --> 01:47:11,280
and uh back then especially what better

3009
01:47:15,910 --> 01:47:12,239
place to start than

3010
01:47:18,229 --> 01:47:15,920
egypt itself and um

3011
01:47:19,669 --> 01:47:18,239
in you know when i started learning that

3012
01:47:21,910 --> 01:47:19,679
side to napoleon

3013
01:47:23,109 --> 01:47:21,920
and also at the same time learning uh

3014
01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:23,119
you know the uh

3015
01:47:28,870 --> 01:47:26,159
the um the the the

3016
01:47:30,070 --> 01:47:28,880
the character assassination really is

3017
01:47:33,270 --> 01:47:30,080
what was done to him

3018
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:33,280
started by the british oligarchs the the

3019
01:47:39,750 --> 01:47:37,199
the british oligarchs were just jealous

3020
01:47:41,669 --> 01:47:39,760
of napoleon bonaparte because basically

3021
01:47:44,550 --> 01:47:41,679
he was beating him at their own game

3022
01:47:44,950 --> 01:47:44,560
okay that's the reason they really hated

3023
01:47:48,870 --> 01:47:44,960
him

3024
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:48,880
they wanted to be the power that

3025
01:47:52,310 --> 01:47:51,040
you know controlled europe essentially

3026
01:47:54,070 --> 01:47:52,320
they wanted to be

3027
01:47:55,990 --> 01:47:54,080
the power that he was becoming that's

3028
01:47:58,390 --> 01:47:56,000
all it was they were no better

3029
01:48:00,390 --> 01:47:58,400
than the character assassination and the

3030
01:48:02,390 --> 01:48:00,400
labels they were putting on this guy and

3031
01:48:05,669 --> 01:48:02,400
for 200 years

3032
01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:05,679
we this this campaign

3033
01:48:08,950 --> 01:48:08,320
to just tarnish his rep and when he was

3034
01:48:11,270 --> 01:48:08,960
alive

3035
01:48:11,990 --> 01:48:11,280
they would say all manner of lies about

3036
01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:12,000
this guy

3037
01:48:15,510 --> 01:48:13,840
i mean they didn't tell their children

3038
01:48:17,109 --> 01:48:15,520
that he would eat them after boiling

3039
01:48:19,510 --> 01:48:17,119
them in the bottom

3040
01:48:21,430 --> 01:48:19,520
i certainly think that like from the

3041
01:48:24,229 --> 01:48:21,440
level of education that i got

3042
01:48:25,030 --> 01:48:24,239
uh in in just in high school and you

3043
01:48:28,149 --> 01:48:25,040
know

3044
01:48:28,550 --> 01:48:28,159
was he was sort of vilified as the bad

3045
01:48:31,510 --> 01:48:28,560
guy

3046
01:48:33,189 --> 01:48:31,520
he was the conqueror and you know

3047
01:48:36,310 --> 01:48:33,199
fascists and

3048
01:48:38,310 --> 01:48:36,320
try to take over all these countries

3049
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:38,320
don't get me wrong the man did make some

3050
01:48:41,830 --> 01:48:39,520
mistakes yeah

3051
01:48:43,510 --> 01:48:41,840
you know and he did some things that you

3052
01:48:45,430 --> 01:48:43,520
know weren't the best thing but

3053
01:48:47,189 --> 01:48:45,440
england and their leadership and their

3054
01:48:48,229 --> 01:48:47,199
monarchy was full of that just look what

3055
01:48:49,830 --> 01:48:48,239
the british did

3056
01:48:52,229 --> 01:48:49,840
to the scottish and the irish you know

3057
01:48:54,550 --> 01:48:52,239
it's not just in the movie braveheart

3058
01:48:55,830 --> 01:48:54,560
that really happened where the lord

3059
01:48:56,550 --> 01:48:55,840
could come by and if you were going to

3060
01:48:58,709 --> 01:48:56,560
get married

3061
01:49:00,550 --> 01:48:58,719
he got to have sex with your wife before

3062
01:49:01,669 --> 01:49:00,560
you did because he's the lord and she's

3063
01:49:03,750 --> 01:49:01,679
his property

3064
01:49:04,790 --> 01:49:03,760
and if she got pregnant you had to raise

3065
01:49:07,510 --> 01:49:04,800
that child

3066
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:07,520
i mean so the english sounds like a good

3067
01:49:10,790 --> 01:49:08,480
deal for him

3068
01:49:11,669 --> 01:49:10,800
right yeah the english monarchy is

3069
01:49:14,390 --> 01:49:11,679
raping

3070
01:49:15,270 --> 01:49:14,400
you know these women and that's not

3071
01:49:18,550 --> 01:49:15,280
heinous

3072
01:49:20,790 --> 01:49:18,560
you know um it's uh

3073
01:49:22,390 --> 01:49:20,800
and and again i i need to specify

3074
01:49:23,109 --> 01:49:22,400
sometimes because i have some folks from

3075
01:49:25,030 --> 01:49:23,119
england that

3076
01:49:26,709 --> 01:49:25,040
follow me and listen they know they've

3077
01:49:28,950 --> 01:49:26,719
heard me say when you hear me

3078
01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:28,960
say the brits in relation to napoleon

3079
01:49:32,629 --> 01:49:30,159
i'm talking about the

3080
01:49:33,910 --> 01:49:32,639
the oligarchy the monarchy this the you

3081
01:49:36,790 --> 01:49:33,920
know the bank of london

3082
01:49:37,750 --> 01:49:36,800
types you know and yes the ruling class

3083
01:49:40,229 --> 01:49:37,760
the elite

3084
01:49:40,950 --> 01:49:40,239
yeah the regular royal family yeah this

3085
01:49:44,470 --> 01:49:40,960
is why

3086
01:49:46,709 --> 01:49:44,480
they were when they did get him

3087
01:49:47,669 --> 01:49:46,719
that they were gonna um uh put him under

3088
01:49:49,589 --> 01:49:47,679
house arrest in

3089
01:49:52,310 --> 01:49:49,599
england because the common british

3090
01:49:53,910 --> 01:49:52,320
people actually were beginning to think

3091
01:49:55,430 --> 01:49:53,920
wow we can't wait for this guy to come

3092
01:49:55,990 --> 01:49:55,440
to england we want to meet him and they

3093
01:49:57,830 --> 01:49:56,000
were afraid

3094
01:49:59,990 --> 01:49:57,840
that their the people would love

3095
01:50:01,910 --> 01:50:00,000
napoleon

3096
01:50:03,270 --> 01:50:01,920
well he's awfully charismatic he would

3097
01:50:05,030 --> 01:50:03,280
have to be to put him in

3098
01:50:06,310 --> 01:50:05,040
itself in that position and probably a

3099
01:50:09,030 --> 01:50:06,320
good order as well

3100
01:50:09,510 --> 01:50:09,040
and and as you can imagine some of the

3101
01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:09,520
people

3102
01:50:14,310 --> 01:50:12,560
to this day you know

3103
01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:14,320
that say well what about this that the

3104
01:50:18,390 --> 01:50:15,920
other when you look and i read

3105
01:50:20,390 --> 01:50:18,400
thousands of pages on napoleon bonaparte

3106
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:20,400
i mean i did my homework on this

3107
01:50:25,350 --> 01:50:22,960
when you look closely at these heinous

3108
01:50:26,550 --> 01:50:25,360
things that they point to napoleon did

3109
01:50:28,629 --> 01:50:26,560
this napoleon did that

3110
01:50:30,390 --> 01:50:28,639
most of the time it's not napoleon

3111
01:50:32,149 --> 01:50:30,400
himself doing it it's one of those

3112
01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:32,159
dumb ass underlings that a lot of

3113
01:50:36,550 --> 01:50:33,679
leaders unfortunately

3114
01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:36,560
this happens to them under their regimes

3115
01:50:39,910 --> 01:50:38,560
there's a couple of things you can point

3116
01:50:42,149 --> 01:50:39,920
to that yeah

3117
01:50:44,310 --> 01:50:42,159
napoleon really did the you know made

3118
01:50:47,510 --> 01:50:44,320
the wrong choice there like

3119
01:50:51,109 --> 01:50:47,520
the guy who got executed

3120
01:50:55,270 --> 01:50:51,119
um shoot he was a duke or something

3121
01:50:58,470 --> 01:50:55,280
anyway he got executed uh you know

3122
01:51:02,470 --> 01:50:58,480
uh murdered essentially assassinated

3123
01:51:05,189 --> 01:51:02,480
and it was kind of you know

3124
01:51:05,669 --> 01:51:05,199
napoleon should have he could have not

3125
01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:05,679
made

3126
01:51:12,790 --> 01:51:09,520
didn't he he allowed it to happen

3127
01:51:15,990 --> 01:51:12,800
and that was yikes you know that was

3128
01:51:17,189 --> 01:51:16,000
but this idea of this monster this oh

3129
01:51:18,709 --> 01:51:17,199
you'll love this

3130
01:51:20,709 --> 01:51:18,719
uh people say well what about the

3131
01:51:21,910 --> 01:51:20,719
nostradamus prediction where he was the

3132
01:51:24,310 --> 01:51:21,920
oh my god

3133
01:51:26,470 --> 01:51:24,320
that is such unmitigated [\h__\h] first

3134
01:51:27,350 --> 01:51:26,480
of all the guy who about a hundred years

3135
01:51:29,350 --> 01:51:27,360
or so ago

3136
01:51:31,189 --> 01:51:29,360
who first started talking about that who

3137
01:51:32,149 --> 01:51:31,199
first presented that nostradamus

3138
01:51:34,470 --> 01:51:32,159
predicted

3139
01:51:35,510 --> 01:51:34,480
that napoleon was the first antichrist

3140
01:51:38,229 --> 01:51:35,520
he admitted

3141
01:51:39,589 --> 01:51:38,239
in his own lifetime that his source for

3142
01:51:43,350 --> 01:51:39,599
nostradamus was a

3143
01:51:45,510 --> 01:51:43,360
terrible translation of nostradamus

3144
01:51:47,430 --> 01:51:45,520
i don't put any stock in nostradamus

3145
01:51:48,950 --> 01:51:47,440
yeah so well you know it's just like

3146
01:51:51,030 --> 01:51:48,960
it's just like i'm gonna write a bunch

3147
01:51:52,629 --> 01:51:51,040
of poems and hundreds of years from now

3148
01:51:53,109 --> 01:51:52,639
people are gonna find some ridiculous

3149
01:51:54,390 --> 01:51:53,119
meaning

3150
01:51:56,070 --> 01:51:54,400
but you have to address it because

3151
01:51:57,589 --> 01:51:56,080
people in our community you know oh but

3152
01:51:59,109 --> 01:51:57,599
what about that well the guy

3153
01:52:00,870 --> 01:51:59,119
who first wrote that said it was

3154
01:52:03,430 --> 01:52:00,880
[\h__\h] and

3155
01:52:04,229 --> 01:52:03,440
um you know so it's i'll tell you it

3156
01:52:05,910 --> 01:52:04,239
opened my eyes

3157
01:52:07,510 --> 01:52:05,920
i came away from this research and

3158
01:52:11,750 --> 01:52:07,520
writing this book is

3159
01:52:12,550 --> 01:52:11,760
you know uh uh just sweet bonapartist

3160
01:52:16,070 --> 01:52:12,560
you know it's

3161
01:52:18,229 --> 01:52:16,080
it's like i i like the guy i i like

3162
01:52:21,270 --> 01:52:18,239
napoleon bonaparte and there are some

3163
01:52:24,310 --> 01:52:21,280
serious historians um who

3164
01:52:27,030 --> 01:52:24,320
are are proving and showing and

3165
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:27,040
and taking that position too that hey

3166
01:52:29,669 --> 01:52:27,760
wait a minute

3167
01:52:30,950 --> 01:52:29,679
napoleon bonaparte was not this evil

3168
01:52:32,470 --> 01:52:30,960
demonic monster

3169
01:52:34,750 --> 01:52:32,480
that he's made out to be that's just a

3170
01:52:37,589 --> 01:52:34,760
bunch of crap and they're finally

3171
01:52:38,229 --> 01:52:37,599
rehabilitating this honestly i'm not

3172
01:52:40,390 --> 01:52:38,239
sure

3173
01:52:41,910 --> 01:52:40,400
maybe i was brainwashed too much so i'll

3174
01:52:44,550 --> 01:52:41,920
i'll trust your judgment though

3175
01:52:46,229 --> 01:52:44,560
well and not just mine uh andrew roberts

3176
01:52:47,350 --> 01:52:46,239
andrew roberts has written a few

3177
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:47,360
thousand pages

3178
01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:50,159
on napoleon bonaparte and you know he

3179
01:52:54,390 --> 01:52:52,080
he's a british historian he's a british

3180
01:52:55,830 --> 01:52:54,400
historian but after 200 years of a smear

3181
01:52:58,229 --> 01:52:55,840
campaign of lies

3182
01:52:59,910 --> 01:52:58,239
it's time that you know people got a

3183
01:53:02,550 --> 01:52:59,920
little bit more of the straight story

3184
01:53:03,589 --> 01:53:02,560
and that's beginning to come out and um

3185
01:53:05,910 --> 01:53:03,599
anyway sure

3186
01:53:07,510 --> 01:53:05,920
oh yeah and and uh just to clarify

3187
01:53:09,030 --> 01:53:07,520
cheryl peterson is here

3188
01:53:11,030 --> 01:53:09,040
and i said that we had a lot of new

3189
01:53:13,350 --> 01:53:11,040
people here and she said not exactly new

3190
01:53:14,790 --> 01:53:13,360
people some of us are boslyans but i

3191
01:53:16,870 --> 01:53:14,800
want them all to know

3192
01:53:18,870 --> 01:53:16,880
you guys are most welcome here please

3193
01:53:21,430 --> 01:53:18,880
come back please subscribe and hit that

3194
01:53:22,550 --> 01:53:21,440
bell hey cheryl hi cheryl and and thanks

3195
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:22,560
for all you who've

3196
01:53:26,950 --> 01:53:26,560
you know are here come over yeah popular

3197
01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:26,960
guy

3198
01:53:29,990 --> 01:53:29,280
mr boss some people i have over there

3199
01:53:31,990 --> 01:53:30,000
were with you

3200
01:53:33,910 --> 01:53:32,000
first and and they're you know like

3201
01:53:35,589 --> 01:53:33,920
they're mods over in my

3202
01:53:37,270 --> 01:53:35,599
thing you know but they're taking my

3203
01:53:38,950 --> 01:53:37,280
audience walter bosley

3204
01:53:40,709 --> 01:53:38,960
i'm gonna punch you in the face when i

3205
01:53:41,510 --> 01:53:40,719
mean i haven't seen mod whiz in a while

3206
01:53:43,830 --> 01:53:41,520
but um

3207
01:53:44,629 --> 01:53:43,840
we got philip blair we got lee veltman

3208
01:53:46,310 --> 01:53:44,639
you know

3209
01:53:47,910 --> 01:53:46,320
well you can have those two clowns i

3210
01:53:50,149 --> 01:53:47,920
don't want them in my audience

3211
01:53:51,510 --> 01:53:50,159
[\h__\h] losers no i'm kidding i love

3212
01:53:55,430 --> 01:53:51,520
those guys we've

3213
01:53:58,790 --> 01:53:55,440
got um uh what's her name darn it

3214
01:54:01,030 --> 01:53:58,800
cat v what v

3215
01:54:02,470 --> 01:54:01,040
yeah super v one cat she was now she's

3216
01:54:04,790 --> 01:54:02,480
just v she's just v

3217
01:54:05,589 --> 01:54:04,800
like madonna she only needs one letter

3218
01:54:08,470 --> 01:54:05,599
she's so

3219
01:54:09,270 --> 01:54:08,480
well known she's just v which makes a

3220
01:54:11,589 --> 01:54:09,280
lot of sense

3221
01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:11,599
yeah these are your folks originally

3222
01:54:13,589 --> 01:54:13,199
well listen i don't want to keep you too

3223
01:54:15,669 --> 01:54:13,599
long

3224
01:54:17,750 --> 01:54:15,679
i can't tell you how happy i am that i

3225
01:54:19,430 --> 01:54:17,760
got to interview you again i hope when

3226
01:54:21,270 --> 01:54:19,440
we have something else coming up

3227
01:54:22,470 --> 01:54:21,280
that you would be well suited for you

3228
01:54:25,589 --> 01:54:22,480
would let me

3229
01:54:26,790 --> 01:54:25,599
pull you in here and shake some uh great

3230
01:54:28,950 --> 01:54:26,800
conversation out of you

3231
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:28,960
well did we talk about roswell enough to

3232
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:30,080
the extent that people

3233
01:54:34,870 --> 01:54:32,159
yeah i mean i think you know it's kind

3234
01:54:35,990 --> 01:54:34,880
of like we we explored your theory we

3235
01:54:38,390 --> 01:54:36,000
went over

3236
01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:38,400
different things i pushed back and asked

3237
01:54:40,390 --> 01:54:40,080
you what you think of other things i

3238
01:54:42,070 --> 01:54:40,400
think

3239
01:54:43,589 --> 01:54:42,080
that we covered pretty well and gave

3240
01:54:45,910 --> 01:54:43,599
people what may be

3241
01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:45,920
another perspective of what actually

3242
01:54:48,790 --> 01:54:47,119
happened at roswell

3243
01:54:50,149 --> 01:54:48,800
well and and if you know here comes the

3244
01:54:52,229 --> 01:54:50,159
plug but again

3245
01:54:54,229 --> 01:54:52,239
if they want the details into why i

3246
01:54:57,750 --> 01:54:54,239
think what i think about roswell

3247
01:54:59,910 --> 01:54:57,760
um i i elaborate further on

3248
01:55:01,629 --> 01:54:59,920
in my book shimmering light which is it

3249
01:55:04,550 --> 01:55:01,639
only at lulu.com

3250
01:55:06,470 --> 01:55:04,560
lulu.com print on demand um

3251
01:55:08,229 --> 01:55:06,480
and that's where i go into the details

3252
01:55:09,990 --> 01:55:08,239
as to why i think what i think and what

3253
01:55:13,669 --> 01:55:10,000
the scenario is about roswell

3254
01:55:15,750 --> 01:55:13,679
and again i say this i could be wrong

3255
01:55:17,830 --> 01:55:15,760
i haven't heard that thing i could be

3256
01:55:20,070 --> 01:55:17,840
wrong i don't yeah no that's good that's

3257
01:55:21,430 --> 01:55:20,080
refreshing i i like that much better

3258
01:55:22,790 --> 01:55:21,440
than people that are so

3259
01:55:24,629 --> 01:55:22,800
adamant that they're right in their

3260
01:55:26,629 --> 01:55:24,639
position and they won't even accept the

3261
01:55:29,830 --> 01:55:26,639
possibility that they could be wrong

3262
01:55:31,270 --> 01:55:29,840
right right yeah it's it's you know

3263
01:55:32,390 --> 01:55:31,280
here's the only thing i get adamant

3264
01:55:36,550 --> 01:55:32,400
about and that i

3265
01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:36,560
is is i i don't lie you know

3266
01:55:40,149 --> 01:55:38,159
if it's something that i'm just thinking

3267
01:55:42,550 --> 01:55:40,159
or speculating i'll tell you that

3268
01:55:43,510 --> 01:55:42,560
um but i'll i'll never lie to people you

3269
01:55:47,030 --> 01:55:43,520
know

3270
01:55:49,350 --> 01:55:47,040
it's i just i just won't do that

3271
01:55:50,870 --> 01:55:49,360
and uh you know we've had if even if

3272
01:55:52,550 --> 01:55:50,880
just one person does it

3273
01:55:54,870 --> 01:55:52,560
in our field in our community or any

3274
01:55:57,270 --> 01:55:54,880
community that's one too many but

3275
01:55:59,270 --> 01:55:57,280
we've had more than one you know who've

3276
01:56:01,109 --> 01:55:59,280
done those kinds of things because

3277
01:56:03,189 --> 01:56:01,119
you know honestly when i got deeper

3278
01:56:04,950 --> 01:56:03,199
looking into these things

3279
01:56:07,189 --> 01:56:04,960
i didn't know at first that you have to

3280
01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:07,199
look into the speaker that's saying this

3281
01:56:09,510 --> 01:56:08,080
stuff

3282
01:56:11,669 --> 01:56:09,520
right and honestly i was a little

3283
01:56:13,750 --> 01:56:11,679
shocked when i started doing that go

3284
01:56:15,669 --> 01:56:13,760
wait this guy was never in the military

3285
01:56:17,350 --> 01:56:15,679
he said that he was in the military then

3286
01:56:19,030 --> 01:56:17,360
i call and i check and i try to get his

3287
01:56:21,350 --> 01:56:19,040
records oh he wasn't

3288
01:56:22,950 --> 01:56:21,360
wait this guy never went to mit or

3289
01:56:24,790 --> 01:56:22,960
caltech like he said he did

3290
01:56:27,109 --> 01:56:24,800
there's no records he's just making this

3291
01:56:28,470 --> 01:56:27,119
[\h__\h] up it was shocking to me how many

3292
01:56:30,149 --> 01:56:28,480
people just totally make up their

3293
01:56:32,310 --> 01:56:30,159
backgrounds their military service

3294
01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:32,320
you know that's what i value i value

3295
01:56:35,350 --> 01:56:33,280
people like you

3296
01:56:37,030 --> 01:56:35,360
who are still into this stuff so much

3297
01:56:38,709 --> 01:56:37,040
more because you can prove

3298
01:56:40,790 --> 01:56:38,719
everything you say about your background

3299
01:56:41,510 --> 01:56:40,800
it's important that you trust the

3300
01:56:43,350 --> 01:56:41,520
speaker

3301
01:56:45,589 --> 01:56:43,360
who's bringing you the information

3302
01:56:47,669 --> 01:56:45,599
absolutely you you have to consider your

3303
01:56:48,470 --> 01:56:47,679
source you have to look at the sources

3304
01:56:51,910 --> 01:56:48,480
of things

3305
01:56:53,430 --> 01:56:51,920
and um you know that but what what now

3306
01:56:55,510 --> 01:56:53,440
i'm wondering you told me that your

3307
01:56:56,229 --> 01:56:55,520
version of the dd214 was different from

3308
01:56:58,310 --> 01:56:56,239
mine

3309
01:56:59,750 --> 01:56:58,320
uh you know now i'm wondering if uh no i

3310
01:57:01,030 --> 01:56:59,760
think there was a slight difference and

3311
01:57:03,350 --> 01:57:01,040
it's just something i noticed

3312
01:57:05,510 --> 01:57:03,360
i'm probably wrong there's an in-house

3313
01:57:06,229 --> 01:57:05,520
version that osi gives it's guys getting

3314
01:57:08,229 --> 01:57:06,239
out that they

3315
01:57:10,149 --> 01:57:08,239
they don't put they don't give to st

3316
01:57:11,589 --> 01:57:10,159
louis you know or something but i was

3317
01:57:13,189 --> 01:57:11,599
hoping to get the one that was going to

3318
01:57:13,750 --> 01:57:13,199
tell me you were a real life man in

3319
01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:13,760
black

3320
01:57:17,030 --> 01:57:15,599
working on flat and foster crash for

3321
01:57:19,030 --> 01:57:17,040
three well you know the funny thing

3322
01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:19,040
about dd214s is they're true

3323
01:57:22,629 --> 01:57:21,360
they they but but the you know some

3324
01:57:24,790 --> 01:57:22,639
people and we've talked about this

3325
01:57:27,830 --> 01:57:24,800
before i think somehow

3326
01:57:29,830 --> 01:57:27,840
some people think that a dd214

3327
01:57:31,510 --> 01:57:29,840
is supposed to tell them every little

3328
01:57:32,790 --> 01:57:31,520
detailed thing the person worked on

3329
01:57:35,830 --> 01:57:32,800
that's not what a dd

3330
01:57:36,629 --> 01:57:35,840
214 is as you know all it can do is

3331
01:57:40,310 --> 01:57:36,639
vouch for

3332
01:57:42,390 --> 01:57:40,320
service and what your job was

3333
01:57:44,229 --> 01:57:42,400
you know and and the bases you were at

3334
01:57:46,149 --> 01:57:44,239
and what training and decorations you

3335
01:57:47,990 --> 01:57:46,159
had all it can do is confirm and verify

3336
01:57:50,229 --> 01:57:48,000
that you were indeed in the military

3337
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:50,239
and in the command that you say you were

3338
01:57:54,550 --> 01:57:52,000
but it doesn't get into the cases

3339
01:57:56,149 --> 01:57:54,560
of the operations obviously you know

3340
01:57:57,430 --> 01:57:56,159
somebody in the live chat where james

3341
01:57:59,510 --> 01:57:57,440
would like to know what what was your

3342
01:58:01,830 --> 01:57:59,520
opinion of your portrayal in

3343
01:58:03,350 --> 01:58:01,840
large men one of my favorite one of my

3344
01:58:04,950 --> 01:58:03,360
favorite documentaries

3345
01:58:06,950 --> 01:58:04,960
okay i'll put it to this way but

3346
01:58:09,990 --> 01:58:06,960
basically um i i

3347
01:58:13,030 --> 01:58:10,000
wasn't happy with how i was

3348
01:58:16,229 --> 01:58:13,040
how the book reads um the

3349
01:58:17,750 --> 01:58:16,239
the video the film that's me anytime you

3350
01:58:18,310 --> 01:58:17,760
see me there and you see me saying what

3351
01:58:21,189 --> 01:58:18,320
i'm saying

3352
01:58:22,149 --> 01:58:21,199
that's what i said you know so in in the

3353
01:58:24,629 --> 01:58:22,159
movie

3354
01:58:25,430 --> 01:58:24,639
they didn't there was some stuff in the

3355
01:58:27,910 --> 01:58:25,440
book that

3356
01:58:30,229 --> 01:58:27,920
the book insinuates that that i did not

3357
01:58:31,430 --> 01:58:30,239
say and that i was not implying

3358
01:58:33,430 --> 01:58:31,440
and that i don't like how it was

3359
01:58:35,990 --> 01:58:33,440
characterized but in the movie

3360
01:58:37,109 --> 01:58:36,000
that's me and and you know i'm i'm

3361
01:58:39,830 --> 01:58:37,119
saying those things now

3362
01:58:41,270 --> 01:58:39,840
sometimes the audience the viewer can

3363
01:58:44,550 --> 01:58:41,280
take what i say

3364
01:58:47,589 --> 01:58:44,560
to fit their hopium um context

3365
01:58:49,750 --> 01:58:47,599
but um so you know the film but now as

3366
01:58:53,270 --> 01:58:49,760
far as my portrayal in that now i

3367
01:58:55,350 --> 01:58:53,280
have some issues with that

3368
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:55,360
aspects of that film and they drumming

3369
01:58:59,030 --> 01:58:56,400
it up though right

3370
01:59:00,470 --> 01:58:59,040
they have to sell it i guess well you

3371
01:59:02,390 --> 01:59:00,480
look it's kind of funny

3372
01:59:04,629 --> 01:59:02,400
i found out later that those two guys

3373
01:59:07,830 --> 01:59:04,639
kind of have a um

3374
01:59:10,709 --> 01:59:07,840
i i think i can say a hard on or a boner

3375
01:59:11,030 --> 01:59:10,719
um against u.s military types they're

3376
01:59:12,629 --> 01:59:11,040
not

3377
01:59:14,470 --> 01:59:12,639
they're they're they're very critical of

3378
01:59:16,790 --> 01:59:14,480
u.s military types but they had

3379
01:59:18,709 --> 01:59:16,800
nothing but praise for kit green who's a

3380
01:59:20,870 --> 01:59:18,719
cia guy

3381
01:59:22,310 --> 01:59:20,880
yeah that makes a lot of sense yeah he's

3382
01:59:24,229 --> 01:59:22,320
going to tell you the truth but not just

3383
01:59:26,310 --> 01:59:24,239
military guy yeah just love

3384
01:59:27,830 --> 01:59:26,320
kit green and oh gee who showed up at

3385
01:59:29,430 --> 01:59:27,840
ttsa kit green

3386
01:59:31,270 --> 01:59:29,440
i've never met kate green i have no

3387
01:59:33,589 --> 01:59:31,280
animus against him personally

3388
01:59:35,350 --> 01:59:33,599
but it's funny how you know what he

3389
01:59:37,270 --> 01:59:35,360
shows up in

3390
01:59:38,390 --> 01:59:37,280
right i got another trust him and think

3391
01:59:39,750 --> 01:59:38,400
he's wonderful

3392
01:59:41,430 --> 01:59:39,760
another question here and i don't know

3393
01:59:43,589 --> 01:59:41,440
what the hell he's talking about

3394
01:59:44,470 --> 01:59:43,599
phil blair says ask walter what his dad

3395
01:59:47,510 --> 01:59:44,480
saw and the

3396
01:59:49,350 --> 01:59:47,520
two of the the demand does that make

3397
01:59:50,390 --> 01:59:49,360
sense oh god that's a phillip that's a

3398
01:59:51,830 --> 01:59:50,400
long conversation

3399
01:59:54,149 --> 01:59:51,840
yeah we're wrapping things up here

3400
01:59:56,149 --> 01:59:54,159
philip we'll say that

3401
01:59:57,430 --> 01:59:56,159
says he saw is in the book shimmering

3402
02:00:00,149 --> 01:59:57,440
light

3403
02:00:01,669 --> 02:00:00,159
um and i'll gladly come back on sometime

3404
02:00:02,310 --> 02:00:01,679
in the future and talk about that book

3405
02:00:05,270 --> 02:00:02,320
if you want

3406
02:00:06,870 --> 02:00:05,280
and answer philip's questions uh yeah

3407
02:00:07,990 --> 02:00:06,880
you know we're starting a book club here

3408
02:00:10,149 --> 02:00:08,000
and i actually

3409
02:00:11,510 --> 02:00:10,159
i have your book on the list i'm

3410
02:00:12,070 --> 02:00:11,520
starting a book we're starting a book

3411
02:00:14,149 --> 02:00:12,080
club here

3412
02:00:15,510 --> 02:00:14,159
and i'm going to read portions of

3413
02:00:17,990 --> 02:00:15,520
certain books and then we're going to

3414
02:00:19,510 --> 02:00:18,000
discuss them so i have you on the list

3415
02:00:21,270 --> 02:00:19,520
and i want to read this shimmering light

3416
02:00:22,070 --> 02:00:21,280
i haven't read the well actually i read

3417
02:00:25,910 --> 02:00:22,080
half of it

3418
02:00:28,149 --> 02:00:25,920
if that makes sense okay or something

3419
02:00:29,430 --> 02:00:28,159
but there was a while ago and that's

3420
02:00:32,550 --> 02:00:29,440
what first made me go

3421
02:00:34,870 --> 02:00:32,560
oh no roswell might have been miss

3422
02:00:36,229 --> 02:00:34,880
not aliens and not a balloon either you

3423
02:00:39,270 --> 02:00:36,239
know it was like the third

3424
02:00:41,510 --> 02:00:39,280
tier of my rabbit hole run

3425
02:00:43,109 --> 02:00:41,520
finding this stuff well i want to thank

3426
02:00:44,070 --> 02:00:43,119
you so much for joining us and trying to

3427
02:00:46,390 --> 02:00:44,080
shed some light

3428
02:00:47,189 --> 02:00:46,400
on what is perhaps one of the greatest

3429
02:00:49,750 --> 02:00:47,199
mysteries

3430
02:00:50,390 --> 02:00:49,760
of american history right i think so

3431
02:00:52,550 --> 02:00:50,400
yeah

3432
02:00:54,310 --> 02:00:52,560
well thank you for having me on i love

3433
02:00:56,629 --> 02:00:54,320
coming on and talking with you and

3434
02:00:58,709 --> 02:00:56,639
um yeah we always have a good time mr

3435
02:01:00,310 --> 02:00:58,719
bosley

3436
02:01:02,550 --> 02:01:00,320
i appreciate what you do you know you're

3437
02:01:04,310 --> 02:01:02,560
trying to keep things honest and true

3438
02:01:06,470 --> 02:01:04,320
it's you know listen lately i've been

3439
02:01:07,189 --> 02:01:06,480
thinking it's such a tough job to try to

3440
02:01:09,589 --> 02:01:07,199
do this

3441
02:01:10,310 --> 02:01:09,599
straight like to try to do it and not

3442
02:01:12,629 --> 02:01:10,320
just

3443
02:01:14,870 --> 02:01:12,639
put all platforms somebody talking to

3444
02:01:17,189 --> 02:01:14,880
aliens or platforms somebody that's

3445
02:01:19,189 --> 02:01:17,199
getting abducted every night or you know

3446
02:01:21,589 --> 02:01:19,199
the stories that don't have proof

3447
02:01:23,030 --> 02:01:21,599
i could i could do a hundred of them and

3448
02:01:24,790 --> 02:01:23,040
and certainly we

3449
02:01:26,709 --> 02:01:24,800
we would increase our viewership and we

3450
02:01:28,870 --> 02:01:26,719
would increase our reach and

3451
02:01:30,870 --> 02:01:28,880
and get bigger but to me i'd rather do

3452
02:01:32,550 --> 02:01:30,880
it the straight way and see

3453
02:01:34,310 --> 02:01:32,560
if we could find the real truth behind

3454
02:01:36,070 --> 02:01:34,320
some of these things or at least

3455
02:01:38,070 --> 02:01:36,080
look i may never find the truth about

3456
02:01:39,589 --> 02:01:38,080
roswell but i'm going to try

3457
02:01:41,910 --> 02:01:39,599
i'm going to go i'm going to talk to the

3458
02:01:43,350 --> 02:01:41,920
experts like you like kevin randle like

3459
02:01:44,790 --> 02:01:43,360
council if people have spent

3460
02:01:46,870 --> 02:01:44,800
you know some people have spent a lot

3461
02:01:47,589 --> 02:01:46,880
more time than me looking into these

3462
02:01:49,189 --> 02:01:47,599
things

3463
02:01:50,870 --> 02:01:49,199
and trying to see if we could get to

3464
02:01:53,109 --> 02:01:50,880
something like

3465
02:01:55,270 --> 02:01:53,119
well here's the thing we are all here

3466
02:01:57,350 --> 02:01:55,280
i'm one of you guys who

3467
02:01:58,950 --> 02:01:57,360
has these who believes that these

3468
02:02:01,189 --> 02:01:58,960
extraordinary things are real

3469
02:02:02,790 --> 02:02:01,199
i'm i'm one of you believe me but here's

3470
02:02:03,750 --> 02:02:02,800
what i found in life and in my

3471
02:02:06,470 --> 02:02:03,760
professional life

3472
02:02:06,950 --> 02:02:06,480
you want to to you want to weed out the

3473
02:02:08,629 --> 02:02:06,960
crap

3474
02:02:10,790 --> 02:02:08,639
the you want to separate the wheat from

3475
02:02:12,470 --> 02:02:10,800
the chaff and um

3476
02:02:14,149 --> 02:02:12,480
you want to weed out the crap that's not

3477
02:02:15,589 --> 02:02:14,159
true so that you can get to the stuff

3478
02:02:19,589 --> 02:02:15,599
that's real and true because

3479
02:02:22,310 --> 02:02:19,599
that serves our quest for for you know

3480
02:02:22,950 --> 02:02:22,320
for the truth you know and and when when

3481
02:02:25,270 --> 02:02:22,960
people are

3482
02:02:27,270 --> 02:02:25,280
muddying those waters with you know just

3483
02:02:29,270 --> 02:02:27,280
some knucklehead making up a story just

3484
02:02:30,149 --> 02:02:29,280
because it makes good radio or whatever

3485
02:02:31,830 --> 02:02:30,159
so to speak

3486
02:02:34,390 --> 02:02:31,840
that doesn't help that doesn't help any

3487
02:02:37,990 --> 02:02:34,400
of us who are sincerely interested

3488
02:02:40,149 --> 02:02:38,000
in this stuff um sure yeah and i've got

3489
02:02:41,589 --> 02:02:40,159
i've got some substantial and supportive

3490
02:02:44,629 --> 02:02:41,599
evidence that i'm gonna

3491
02:02:47,510 --> 02:02:44,639
be laying out in my in my new series

3492
02:02:48,310 --> 02:02:47,520
comic disclosure that i think is very

3493
02:02:49,910 --> 02:02:48,320
compelling

3494
02:02:51,430 --> 02:02:49,920
that might point to the fact that the

3495
02:02:53,109 --> 02:02:51,440
united states government

3496
02:02:55,430 --> 02:02:53,119
purposefully employs some of these

3497
02:02:57,430 --> 02:02:55,440
people helps them

3498
02:02:59,270 --> 02:02:57,440
helps them avoid prosecution for some of

3499
02:03:01,430 --> 02:02:59,280
their let's just say less than uh

3500
02:03:02,629 --> 02:03:01,440
scrupulous fundraising activities and

3501
02:03:05,350 --> 02:03:02,639
other things

3502
02:03:06,790 --> 02:03:05,360
in order to incentivize them to push

3503
02:03:09,589 --> 02:03:06,800
certain narratives

3504
02:03:11,109 --> 02:03:09,599
and to make the study the serious study

3505
02:03:16,070 --> 02:03:11,119
of these subjects

3506
02:03:21,510 --> 02:03:19,510
as a guy who conducted and ran opps and

3507
02:03:24,950 --> 02:03:21,520
stuff which you just laid out there

3508
02:03:27,270 --> 02:03:24,960
anybody who's ever run an asset or or

3509
02:03:28,070 --> 02:03:27,280
a source as a law enforcement agent or

3510
02:03:30,709 --> 02:03:28,080
officer

3511
02:03:32,709 --> 02:03:30,719
um that's yeah what you just described

3512
02:03:33,030 --> 02:03:32,719
there that's within the realm of reality

3513
02:03:35,109 --> 02:03:33,040
and

3514
02:03:37,109 --> 02:03:35,119
possibility so i agree with you i i

3515
02:03:39,350 --> 02:03:37,119
think there's got to be some

3516
02:03:42,310 --> 02:03:39,360
of these people in the community that

3517
02:03:43,589 --> 02:03:42,320
yeah definitely um

3518
02:03:45,350 --> 02:03:43,599
were well now i'm not going to say the

3519
02:03:46,629 --> 02:03:45,360
word definitely that that goes against

3520
02:03:49,750 --> 02:03:46,639
you know

3521
02:03:52,790 --> 02:03:49,760
i i suspect probably most

3522
02:03:53,910 --> 02:03:52,800
likely yeah probably most likely uh you

3523
02:03:55,669 --> 02:03:53,920
know could be this

3524
02:03:57,910 --> 02:03:55,679
and so i i would agree with you because

3525
02:04:00,950 --> 02:03:57,920
that's not out of the realm of

3526
02:04:02,390 --> 02:04:00,960
a possibility at all all right well i'm

3527
02:04:04,069 --> 02:04:02,400
going to let you go mr bosley and i'm

3528
02:04:06,470 --> 02:04:04,079
going to wrap up a little bit of show

3529
02:04:08,310 --> 02:04:06,480
i'm not going to hold you over you know

3530
02:04:09,030 --> 02:04:08,320
because sometimes i will hold the guest

3531
02:04:10,790 --> 02:04:09,040
over and then

3532
02:04:12,390 --> 02:04:10,800
and then talk off here but we could do

3533
02:04:14,709 --> 02:04:12,400
that another time or or

3534
02:04:15,830 --> 02:04:14,719
uh after i finish i have to just wrap up

3535
02:04:18,069 --> 02:04:15,840
some show business

3536
02:04:19,510 --> 02:04:18,079
do it about the upcoming book clubs and

3537
02:04:20,709 --> 02:04:19,520
upcoming guests and a few other things

3538
02:04:23,109 --> 02:04:20,719
and i don't want to keep you any longer

3539
02:04:25,189 --> 02:04:23,119
than i have to i do appreciate your time

3540
02:04:26,550 --> 02:04:25,199
i'm so glad that your health is uh

3541
02:04:28,550 --> 02:04:26,560
improved and i'm

3542
02:04:30,870 --> 02:04:28,560
thank you yeah i'm keeping my thoughts

3543
02:04:33,270 --> 02:04:30,880
and prayers and meditation you know

3544
02:04:34,550 --> 02:04:33,280
some of us can do the love and light

3545
02:04:37,430 --> 02:04:34,560
thing and not be all

3546
02:04:39,589 --> 02:04:37,440
woo-woo crazy i do think of you and

3547
02:04:40,790 --> 02:04:39,599
think positive good things and he lets

3548
02:04:43,830 --> 02:04:40,800
energy that'll work

3549
02:04:45,669 --> 02:04:43,840
for my friend mr bosley all right i'm

3550
02:04:47,430 --> 02:04:45,679
gonna throw you out now

3551
02:04:49,350 --> 02:04:47,440
i hope we do this again soon you're

3552
02:04:53,830 --> 02:04:49,360
always welcome mr bosley

3553
02:04:55,669 --> 02:04:53,840
thank you good night

3554
02:04:56,870 --> 02:04:55,679
all right i'm gonna throw you out then

3555
02:05:00,470 --> 02:04:56,880
i'm gonna throw out this

3556
02:05:02,149 --> 02:05:00,480
and here we go okay so uh just a little

3557
02:05:04,950 --> 02:05:02,159
bit of show business

3558
02:05:06,709 --> 02:05:04,960
uh that i wanted to talk about briefly

3559
02:05:07,270 --> 02:05:06,719
first of all we have a new rumble

3560
02:05:10,310 --> 02:05:07,280
channel

3561
02:05:13,910 --> 02:05:10,320
which is wow this shirt looks horrid

3562
02:05:15,750 --> 02:05:13,920
i don't like the way this looks uh

3563
02:05:17,109 --> 02:05:15,760
i better stick to just basic black i

3564
02:05:18,629 --> 02:05:17,119
think this one's gray

3565
02:05:21,350 --> 02:05:18,639
right see what happens when you try to

3566
02:05:24,629 --> 02:05:21,360
change things up doesn't always go well

3567
02:05:26,390 --> 02:05:24,639
alright so just a few bits of uh

3568
02:05:28,149 --> 02:05:26,400
stuff about the show we have this new

3569
02:05:28,629 --> 02:05:28,159
rumble channel which is doing pretty

3570
02:05:30,790 --> 02:05:28,639
well

3571
02:05:31,750 --> 02:05:30,800
if you have rumble please go over there

3572
02:05:34,149 --> 02:05:31,760
and uh

3573
02:05:35,750 --> 02:05:34,159
subscribe or follow us i'm not sure if

3574
02:05:36,790 --> 02:05:35,760
it's i think it's called follow on

3575
02:05:38,870 --> 02:05:36,800
rumble

3576
02:05:40,629 --> 02:05:38,880
we are going to be posting select shows

3577
02:05:42,470 --> 02:05:40,639
including this one

3578
02:05:44,550 --> 02:05:42,480
when we do a special event show like

3579
02:05:45,270 --> 02:05:44,560
these special event shows roswell

3580
02:05:47,030 --> 02:05:45,280
revisited

3581
02:05:48,390 --> 02:05:47,040
we're going to post them everywhere that

3582
02:05:51,990 --> 02:05:48,400
we can uh

3583
02:05:55,750 --> 02:05:52,000
rumble i'm looking into vimeo

3584
02:05:59,030 --> 02:05:55,760
d live and some other uh sources

3585
02:06:00,790 --> 02:05:59,040
distribution sources as well we're going

3586
02:06:03,350 --> 02:06:00,800
to be posting them everywhere we can

3587
02:06:04,470 --> 02:06:03,360
try to spread the show a little bit more

3588
02:06:07,589 --> 02:06:04,480
and also

3589
02:06:09,030 --> 02:06:07,599
uh we mentioned previously

3590
02:06:12,790 --> 02:06:09,040
that we're going to be starting a book

3591
02:06:15,750 --> 02:06:12,800
club with jason quit's book

3592
02:06:16,069 --> 02:06:15,760
shortly and uh i don't have that right

3593
02:06:19,189 --> 02:06:16,079
here

3594
02:06:20,950 --> 02:06:19,199
sorry friends but also uh i just got

3595
02:06:24,390 --> 02:06:20,960
this in the mail and i want to thank him

3596
02:06:27,510 --> 02:06:24,400
uh i got this book which is uh

3597
02:06:30,790 --> 02:06:27,520
here let's see the intimate alien the

3598
02:06:33,350 --> 02:06:30,800
hidden story of the ufo it's by david j

3599
02:06:33,990 --> 02:06:33,360
halperin and he's been kind enough to

3600
02:06:36,709 --> 02:06:34,000
give me

3601
02:06:38,550 --> 02:06:36,719
uh enough time to get through the book

3602
02:06:39,430 --> 02:06:38,560
you know i want to interview him about

3603
02:06:41,510 --> 02:06:39,440
the book

3604
02:06:42,470 --> 02:06:41,520
and i gotta tell you i'm two chapters in

3605
02:06:44,870 --> 02:06:42,480
and i'm hooked

3606
02:06:45,669 --> 02:06:44,880
uh like i'm gonna go uh read this for a

3607
02:06:48,470 --> 02:06:45,679
while tonight

3608
02:06:49,830 --> 02:06:48,480
when i finish the show i think this is a

3609
02:06:52,470 --> 02:06:49,840
pretty interesting book

3610
02:06:53,990 --> 02:06:52,480
and the the reason it's so interesting

3611
02:06:57,350 --> 02:06:54,000
to me it's because it's written

3612
02:07:00,709 --> 02:06:57,360
by a theology scholar and

3613
02:07:03,750 --> 02:07:00,719
it deals a lot with theology

3614
02:07:07,030 --> 02:07:03,760
and uh sort of consciousness

3615
02:07:10,470 --> 02:07:07,040
and it just it's a different perspective

3616
02:07:12,870 --> 02:07:10,480
on the ufo phenomenon than than most

3617
02:07:14,870 --> 02:07:12,880
most go after the nuts and the bolts uh

3618
02:07:16,790 --> 02:07:14,880
but mr halperin in this excellent book

3619
02:07:18,709 --> 02:07:16,800
is really going after the history the

3620
02:07:21,750 --> 02:07:18,719
mythology

3621
02:07:23,990 --> 02:07:21,760
the the links between some

3622
02:07:26,470 --> 02:07:24,000
religious experiences and ufo

3623
02:07:28,470 --> 02:07:26,480
experiences and many different things

3624
02:07:29,589 --> 02:07:28,480
i'm only a little bit into it i find it

3625
02:07:31,430 --> 02:07:29,599
pretty fascinating

3626
02:07:33,270 --> 02:07:31,440
so we're going to have him on as a guest

3627
02:07:36,069 --> 02:07:33,280
i'll uh plug the book again

3628
02:07:37,589 --> 02:07:36,079
in case you want to get the book um it's

3629
02:07:39,030 --> 02:07:37,599
available online just search for

3630
02:07:42,629 --> 02:07:39,040
intimate alien david

3631
02:07:44,470 --> 02:07:42,639
j halperin uh so far and some a viewer

3632
02:07:45,109 --> 02:07:44,480
suggested that i interview him and i

3633
02:07:47,750 --> 02:07:45,119
gotta

3634
02:07:48,470 --> 02:07:47,760
thank them i'm i'm sorry i'm blanking on

3635
02:07:50,550 --> 02:07:48,480
who

3636
02:07:52,390 --> 02:07:50,560
suggested to interview him uh but

3637
02:07:54,310 --> 02:07:52,400
somebody said hey you gotta read this

3638
02:07:56,390 --> 02:07:54,320
book and you gotta interview this guy

3639
02:07:58,790 --> 02:07:56,400
and uh so far i'm so glad that he was

3640
02:08:00,470 --> 02:07:58,800
brought more closely to my attention he

3641
02:08:01,589 --> 02:08:00,480
was already on my radar and so was the

3642
02:08:05,910 --> 02:08:01,599
book but

3643
02:08:09,430 --> 02:08:05,920
somebody helped that get to sort of a

3644
02:08:12,629 --> 02:08:09,440
higher level here uh

3645
02:08:14,709 --> 02:08:12,639
a higher level of of my attention

3646
02:08:16,470 --> 02:08:14,719
so that he sort of jumped the ship here

3647
02:08:19,189 --> 02:08:16,480
and we're going to get to interview him

3648
02:08:19,990 --> 02:08:19,199
probably sometime in the next few weeks

3649
02:08:21,669 --> 02:08:20,000
i'm going

3650
02:08:23,270 --> 02:08:21,679
through the book at a pretty good clip

3651
02:08:24,390 --> 02:08:23,280
it's one of those books you don't want

3652
02:08:26,550 --> 02:08:24,400
to put down

3653
02:08:27,430 --> 02:08:26,560
uh but last night i literally fell

3654
02:08:30,709 --> 02:08:27,440
asleep trying to

3655
02:08:33,430 --> 02:08:30,719
get get through more of it uh

3656
02:08:35,109 --> 02:08:33,440
long day yesterday long day today i'm

3657
02:08:36,470 --> 02:08:35,119
really working hard on this new series

3658
02:08:38,790 --> 02:08:36,480
we're going to be doing which is called

3659
02:08:41,109 --> 02:08:38,800
cosmic con

3660
02:08:42,149 --> 02:08:41,119
or i'm sorry it's called comic

3661
02:08:45,430 --> 02:08:42,159
disclosure

3662
02:08:48,550 --> 02:08:45,440
and it's a joke comedic take on the

3663
02:08:51,109 --> 02:08:48,560
once famous gaia tv series

3664
02:08:53,109 --> 02:08:51,119
cosmic disclosure and basically revolves

3665
02:08:54,709 --> 02:08:53,119
around two clowns telling stories about

3666
02:08:55,510 --> 02:08:54,719
being in this big you know talking to

3667
02:08:57,589 --> 02:08:55,520
each other

3668
02:09:00,629 --> 02:08:57,599
about being in the secret space program

3669
02:09:03,589 --> 02:09:00,639
and you know time traveling and

3670
02:09:04,390 --> 02:09:03,599
i gotta tell you friends watching clowns

3671
02:09:06,709 --> 02:09:04,400
say this

3672
02:09:07,430 --> 02:09:06,719
the stories that these guys talk about

3673
02:09:11,189 --> 02:09:07,440
is

3674
02:09:12,390 --> 02:09:11,199
it's just i i i think i outdid myself on

3675
02:09:14,069 --> 02:09:12,400
this idea

3676
02:09:16,950 --> 02:09:14,079
i'm hoping that we're going to have one

3677
02:09:19,990 --> 02:09:16,960
of those done in the next few weeks

3678
02:09:20,870 --> 02:09:20,000
a note about patreon supporters you're

3679
02:09:23,990 --> 02:09:20,880
gonna get

3680
02:09:25,510 --> 02:09:24,000
parts of this tomorrow night parts of

3681
02:09:27,109 --> 02:09:25,520
this new series because

3682
02:09:28,870 --> 02:09:27,119
if you're a patreon supporter you get

3683
02:09:30,470 --> 02:09:28,880
sort of a backstage pass and you get to

3684
02:09:31,990 --> 02:09:30,480
see things a little earlier than our

3685
02:09:34,790 --> 02:09:32,000
general audience here would

3686
02:09:36,470 --> 02:09:34,800
uh get to see them and uh if you would

3687
02:09:37,189 --> 02:09:36,480
like to become a patreon supporter

3688
02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:37,199
there's

3689
02:09:44,310 --> 02:09:40,320
patreon and paypal donate button links

3690
02:09:47,350 --> 02:09:44,320
in our about section here and also

3691
02:09:49,109 --> 02:09:47,360
i have a shout out for paypal donation

3692
02:09:51,510 --> 02:09:49,119
we have something here that people have

3693
02:09:54,470 --> 02:09:51,520
asked about the super chat donations

3694
02:09:54,870 --> 02:09:54,480
and here's what i will say i did all the

3695
02:10:00,390 --> 02:09:54,880
the

3696
02:10:01,830 --> 02:10:00,400
requires you to do

3697
02:10:04,310 --> 02:10:01,840
for the super chats now that we've

3698
02:10:07,030 --> 02:10:04,320
reached the threshold that they require

3699
02:10:08,790 --> 02:10:07,040
and we're just awaiting their review

3700
02:10:09,270 --> 02:10:08,800
near as i can tell they also have to

3701
02:10:12,870 --> 02:10:09,280
then

3702
02:10:14,950 --> 02:10:12,880
uh mail me something with a confirmation

3703
02:10:16,550 --> 02:10:14,960
code on it that i say yes that's me

3704
02:10:18,709 --> 02:10:16,560
it might be a few more weeks before we

3705
02:10:20,310 --> 02:10:18,719
get the paypal or excuse me the super

3706
02:10:21,830 --> 02:10:20,320
chat donations in the meantime we have

3707
02:10:23,430 --> 02:10:21,840
something called not so super chat

3708
02:10:25,430 --> 02:10:23,440
donations where you

3709
02:10:26,870 --> 02:10:25,440
send me a paypal donation from our about

3710
02:10:28,629 --> 02:10:26,880
section and then

3711
02:10:30,069 --> 02:10:28,639
write in the notes section anything you

3712
02:10:32,229 --> 02:10:30,079
want me to shout out

3713
02:10:33,669 --> 02:10:32,239
and i definitely do that it's a little

3714
02:10:35,109 --> 02:10:33,679
slower it doesn't work as great as a

3715
02:10:36,790 --> 02:10:35,119
super chat donation but

3716
02:10:38,790 --> 02:10:36,800
it's what we got for right now until

3717
02:10:42,149 --> 02:10:38,800
those super chats get turned on

3718
02:10:45,589 --> 02:10:42,159
uh so i want to take a moment to thank

3719
02:10:47,589 --> 02:10:45,599
uh paypal donation kind and generous

3720
02:10:49,510 --> 02:10:47,599
paypal donation from genocide

3721
02:10:51,350 --> 02:10:49,520
of five dollars i want to thank you very

3722
02:10:53,109 --> 02:10:51,360
much for your kindness your generosity

3723
02:10:56,149 --> 02:10:53,119
and your support of the show

3724
02:10:57,430 --> 02:10:56,159
genocide has been a long time supporter

3725
02:11:01,189 --> 02:10:57,440
of the show

3726
02:11:01,669 --> 02:11:01,199
uh and i i am very thankful for his

3727
02:11:04,149 --> 02:11:01,679
health

3728
02:11:06,149 --> 02:11:04,159
support and assistance i might need to

3729
02:11:07,270 --> 02:11:06,159
buy some puppet building supplies for

3730
02:11:09,750 --> 02:11:07,280
this new project

3731
02:11:10,470 --> 02:11:09,760
or some other stuff and all the money

3732
02:11:13,270 --> 02:11:10,480
that goes

3733
02:11:15,189 --> 02:11:13,280
towards the donations or the patreon

3734
02:11:16,709 --> 02:11:15,199
money gets put right back into the show

3735
02:11:18,709 --> 02:11:16,719
in one form or another

3736
02:11:20,069 --> 02:11:18,719
uh backdrops lighting equipment

3737
02:11:23,510 --> 02:11:20,079
microphones

3738
02:11:24,149 --> 02:11:23,520
um whatever headphones odds and ends

3739
02:11:27,669 --> 02:11:24,159
that we

3740
02:11:30,790 --> 02:11:27,679
uh need to keep the show moving forward

3741
02:11:32,870 --> 02:11:30,800
hopefully we will also be um

3742
02:11:34,790 --> 02:11:32,880
expanding where we stream the show to

3743
02:11:36,390 --> 02:11:34,800
but honestly i'm kind of striking out

3744
02:11:38,950 --> 02:11:36,400
trying to do that like we can

3745
02:11:40,069 --> 02:11:38,960
right through um stream yard go to

3746
02:11:42,950 --> 02:11:40,079
periscope

3747
02:11:45,510 --> 02:11:42,960
and i think d-live requires some

3748
02:11:47,109 --> 02:11:45,520
weirdness you have to put in an rntp

3749
02:11:48,629 --> 02:11:47,119
feed or something and i'm not very

3750
02:11:49,589 --> 02:11:48,639
familiar with this so i kind of struck

3751
02:11:56,069 --> 02:11:49,599
out

3752
02:11:57,589 --> 02:11:56,079
yeah thank you the i apologize i have

3753
02:11:59,350 --> 02:11:57,599
the book but somewhere over there and i

3754
02:12:00,149 --> 02:11:59,360
don't want to go get up just to hold up

3755
02:12:02,390 --> 02:12:00,159
the book

3756
02:12:04,629 --> 02:12:02,400
uh the the jason quickbook we'll be

3757
02:12:07,510 --> 02:12:04,639
discussing in the first book club series

3758
02:12:08,870 --> 02:12:07,520
is called forbidden knowledge and uh if

3759
02:12:12,550 --> 02:12:08,880
you give me one second

3760
02:12:15,270 --> 02:12:12,560
i will uh i will

3761
02:12:15,589 --> 02:12:15,280
share that on my screen it's available

3762
02:12:19,270 --> 02:12:15,599
on

3763
02:12:22,550 --> 02:12:19,280
recall

3764
02:12:25,990 --> 02:12:22,560
uh yeah

3765
02:12:27,189 --> 02:12:26,000
okay i got it all right i'm gonna share

3766
02:12:36,310 --> 02:12:27,199
my screen

3767
02:12:40,390 --> 02:12:38,149
yeah so it's called forbidden knowledge

3768
02:12:43,109 --> 02:12:40,400
revelations of a multi-dimensional time

3769
02:12:47,589 --> 02:12:45,910
okay jason quit has been has experienced

3770
02:12:47,990 --> 02:12:47,599
the past the present and the future from

3771
02:12:50,310 --> 02:12:48,000
ancient

3772
02:12:52,390 --> 02:12:50,320
egypt and atlantis to our possible pre

3773
02:12:53,350 --> 02:12:52,400
and post-apocalyptic future he has been

3774
02:12:55,030 --> 02:12:53,360
a witness

3775
02:12:56,709 --> 02:12:55,040
to our unrecorded history within the

3776
02:12:57,669 --> 02:12:56,719
pages of forbidden knowledge you will

3777
02:12:59,270 --> 02:12:57,679
learn

3778
02:13:01,350 --> 02:12:59,280
who we are and how mainstream

3779
02:13:02,310 --> 02:13:01,360
archaeologists scientists and historians

3780
02:13:05,990 --> 02:13:02,320
have been swept

3781
02:13:07,830 --> 02:13:06,000
up in a fabricated storyline um

3782
02:13:10,870 --> 02:13:07,840
i gotta tell you i don't know what i

3783
02:13:14,069 --> 02:13:10,880
think about the validity

3784
02:13:15,910 --> 02:13:14,079
or the do i believe

3785
02:13:18,229 --> 02:13:15,920
that he's having these experiences i

3786
02:13:19,830 --> 02:13:18,239
don't know do i believe that he believes

3787
02:13:22,629 --> 02:13:19,840
he's having these experiences

3788
02:13:23,750 --> 02:13:22,639
absolutely and some of the experiences

3789
02:13:26,629 --> 02:13:23,760
in this book are

3790
02:13:27,430 --> 02:13:26,639
like the hair will stand up on the back

3791
02:13:29,750 --> 02:13:27,440
of your neck

3792
02:13:30,950 --> 02:13:29,760
when you read what he's saying happened

3793
02:13:33,109 --> 02:13:30,960
to him

3794
02:13:34,790 --> 02:13:33,119
uh a little somewhere a little scared

3795
02:13:36,870 --> 02:13:34,800
some of this stuff's a little scary some

3796
02:13:38,870 --> 02:13:36,880
of it's a little strange

3797
02:13:40,149 --> 02:13:38,880
uh but these are his experiences and

3798
02:13:43,030 --> 02:13:40,159
we're going to be

3799
02:13:44,550 --> 02:13:43,040
reading through the book and so if you

3800
02:13:45,109 --> 02:13:44,560
want to get a book so that you could

3801
02:13:46,870 --> 02:13:45,119
read

3802
02:13:48,470 --> 02:13:46,880
maybe we'll do one chapter a week or a

3803
02:13:50,069 --> 02:13:48,480
few chapters a week i think the chapters

3804
02:13:52,149 --> 02:13:50,079
are pretty short so we could probably do

3805
02:13:53,830 --> 02:13:52,159
two chapters a week easily

3806
02:13:56,149 --> 02:13:53,840
i'm going to read some select portions

3807
02:13:57,750 --> 02:13:56,159
of it i got a highlighter and everything

3808
02:13:59,669 --> 02:13:57,760
and then we're going to discuss portions

3809
02:14:01,109 --> 02:13:59,679
of the book um

3810
02:14:03,270 --> 02:14:01,119
just giving you a heads up you don't

3811
02:14:05,510 --> 02:14:03,280
need to buy a book um and and

3812
02:14:07,270 --> 02:14:05,520
just so everybody's aware jason did not

3813
02:14:08,229 --> 02:14:07,280
put me up to this to try to sell books

3814
02:14:09,430 --> 02:14:08,239
or anything

3815
02:14:11,669 --> 02:14:09,440
i just think it's a great and

3816
02:14:15,750 --> 02:14:11,679
interesting book that we could all

3817
02:14:17,510 --> 02:14:15,760
discuss so we're gonna do that

3818
02:14:20,149 --> 02:14:17,520
probably next week will be the first

3819
02:14:22,069 --> 02:14:20,159
book club show i'm gonna

3820
02:14:24,229 --> 02:14:22,079
i'm gonna make a graphic and then i'll

3821
02:14:25,589 --> 02:14:24,239
i'll tell everybody with a date and a

3822
02:14:26,709 --> 02:14:25,599
time where we're gonna have the first

3823
02:14:35,030 --> 02:14:26,719
book club

3824
02:14:38,550 --> 02:14:37,270
boy jiggy you really don't give anybody

3825
02:14:41,189 --> 02:14:38,560
a p you don't even give

3826
02:14:42,709 --> 02:14:41,199
jason quit a pass he's so nice everybody

3827
02:14:44,069 --> 02:14:42,719
thinks he's a nice guy

3828
02:14:46,870 --> 02:14:44,079
i don't know what to think about his

3829
02:14:49,910 --> 02:14:46,880
experiences but i'm willing to at least

3830
02:14:52,229 --> 02:14:49,920
listen and read about his experiences

3831
02:14:53,189 --> 02:14:52,239
and then we can discuss what what i

3832
02:14:56,310 --> 02:14:53,199
think

3833
02:14:58,870 --> 02:14:56,320
about his experiences um

3834
02:15:00,470 --> 02:14:58,880
so far i found a book like a little

3835
02:15:06,629 --> 02:15:00,480
scary and strange

3836
02:15:10,870 --> 02:15:09,109
no cheryl peterson says youtube's

3837
02:15:12,550 --> 02:15:10,880
algorithm who can understand it

3838
02:15:14,709 --> 02:15:12,560
i had never heard of this channel until

3839
02:15:17,750 --> 02:15:14,719
walter mentioned disappearance well

3840
02:15:18,470 --> 02:15:17,760
good uh miss peterson i am glad that you

3841
02:15:20,870 --> 02:15:18,480
found us

3842
02:15:22,790 --> 02:15:20,880
and you are most welcome here anybody

3843
02:15:23,189 --> 02:15:22,800
who likes walter bosley is a friend of

3844
02:15:26,950 --> 02:15:23,199
mine

3845
02:15:31,030 --> 02:15:26,960
right um i got a couple of his books

3846
02:15:32,629 --> 02:15:31,040
and uh i sort of yeah i said i wasn't

3847
02:15:33,990 --> 02:15:32,639
stalking him when he was here on the

3848
02:15:36,790 --> 02:15:34,000
show but i kind of was

3849
02:15:38,629 --> 02:15:36,800
because i looked up uh i went sort of

3850
02:15:40,550 --> 02:15:38,639
investigating him to find out if his

3851
02:15:41,510 --> 02:15:40,560
background was real and found it to be

3852
02:15:47,990 --> 02:15:41,520
100 percent

3853
02:15:56,310 --> 02:15:52,870
jeez yeah so

3854
02:15:58,870 --> 02:15:56,320
it is what it is friends uh i

3855
02:16:01,030 --> 02:15:58,880
sort of looked up uh you know his

3856
02:16:02,470 --> 02:16:01,040
military background and his credentials

3857
02:16:04,149 --> 02:16:02,480
to see if he really worked where he said

3858
02:16:05,270 --> 02:16:04,159
he worked and this and that you know

3859
02:16:06,149 --> 02:16:05,280
because there's a lot of guys running

3860
02:16:07,669 --> 02:16:06,159
around saying they worked at

3861
02:16:09,109 --> 02:16:07,679
wright-patterson air force base but

3862
02:16:11,030 --> 02:16:09,119
usually they'll start telling stories

3863
02:16:11,750 --> 02:16:11,040
about aliens and he never did he just

3864
02:16:14,790 --> 02:16:11,760
expressed an

3865
02:16:15,750 --> 02:16:14,800
interest in aliens the ufo files and

3866
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:15,760
topics

3867
02:16:20,629 --> 02:16:18,880
and things like that um i wanted to know

3868
02:16:22,069 --> 02:16:20,639
whether his background was real or not

3869
02:16:23,750 --> 02:16:22,079
because too many of these people's

3870
02:16:25,430 --> 02:16:23,760
backgrounds are completely and totally

3871
02:16:27,589 --> 02:16:25,440
fake and made up

3872
02:16:28,470 --> 02:16:27,599
that at least with walter bosley what

3873
02:16:30,709 --> 02:16:28,480
you get is

3874
02:16:31,990 --> 02:16:30,719
his background is real everything that

3875
02:16:35,830 --> 02:16:32,000
he says about his military

3876
02:16:39,349 --> 02:16:35,840
experience is real and and i find that

3877
02:16:41,190 --> 02:16:39,359
very valuable as far as an information

3878
02:16:44,870 --> 02:16:41,200
source when he speaks

3879
02:16:45,509 --> 02:16:44,880
i tend to trust that he's being truthful

3880
02:16:49,190 --> 02:16:45,519
and honest

3881
02:16:50,870 --> 02:16:49,200
because uh his background is real

3882
02:16:52,870 --> 02:16:50,880
you know some people may not like that

3883
02:16:55,030 --> 02:16:52,880
today he was speculating

3884
02:16:55,990 --> 02:16:55,040
uh but he was open about that these are

3885
02:16:58,709 --> 02:16:56,000
his theories

3886
02:16:59,349 --> 02:16:58,719
uh based on his research and his ideas

3887
02:17:01,830 --> 02:16:59,359
and

3888
02:17:03,190 --> 02:17:01,840
you can take them or leave them i'm

3889
02:17:05,270 --> 02:17:03,200
going to use that

3890
02:17:06,469 --> 02:17:05,280
thing that everybody all the show hosts

3891
02:17:09,190 --> 02:17:06,479
say it uh

3892
02:17:10,150 --> 02:17:09,200
usually all the shows but me but use

3893
02:17:12,070 --> 02:17:10,160
your discernment

3894
02:17:14,150 --> 02:17:12,080
now if you don't like what if you don't

3895
02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:14,160
like his theory of roswell we've

3896
02:17:18,629 --> 02:17:16,000
presented to others

3897
02:17:20,950 --> 02:17:18,639
um and we're going to continue to

3898
02:17:23,990 --> 02:17:20,960
present a few more in the series

3899
02:17:25,990 --> 02:17:24,000
if everything works out uh according to

3900
02:17:27,910 --> 02:17:26,000
plan i hope to have a few more guests

3901
02:17:29,990 --> 02:17:27,920
i don't want to i don't want to spill

3902
02:17:31,030 --> 02:17:30,000
the beans just yet but we might have a

3903
02:17:33,990 --> 02:17:31,040
few more

3904
02:17:34,950 --> 02:17:34,000
guests uh to talk about roswell before

3905
02:17:37,509 --> 02:17:34,960
we sort of wrap

3906
02:17:39,270 --> 02:17:37,519
up this special event series revisit to

3907
02:17:41,669 --> 02:17:39,280
roswell

3908
02:17:43,190 --> 02:17:41,679
well friends until uh i want to thank

3909
02:17:45,669 --> 02:17:43,200
each and every one of you for joining us

3910
02:17:47,910 --> 02:17:45,679
and especially welcome these people

3911
02:17:50,070 --> 02:17:47,920
uh that that were new tonight and have

3912
02:17:51,990 --> 02:17:50,080
never seen one of our shows

3913
02:17:54,070 --> 02:17:52,000
if you like tonight you would probably

3914
02:17:56,150 --> 02:17:54,080
like a lot of the stuff that we do here

3915
02:17:58,709 --> 02:17:56,160
please do like comment and subscribe

3916
02:17:59,589 --> 02:17:58,719
and hit the notification bell um we'll

3917
02:18:02,629 --> 02:17:59,599
be doing a show

3918
02:18:04,870 --> 02:18:02,639
every day monday through probably monday

3919
02:18:08,830 --> 02:18:04,880
through saturday going forward

3920
02:18:09,830 --> 02:18:08,840
um seem like we we're doing too many

3921
02:18:11,910 --> 02:18:09,840
shows uh

3922
02:18:13,910 --> 02:18:11,920
but now it seems like i don't know the

3923
02:18:16,309 --> 02:18:13,920
views really spiked up so

3924
02:18:18,230 --> 02:18:16,319
i'm gonna strike while the iron is hot

3925
02:18:20,469 --> 02:18:18,240
and continue to do

3926
02:18:22,230 --> 02:18:20,479
as many good high quality shows as we

3927
02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:22,240
can if i have a day where i don't really

3928
02:18:26,790 --> 02:18:24,880
have a good high quality show to share

3929
02:18:29,110 --> 02:18:26,800
then i'll take a day off and i'll work

3930
02:18:31,750 --> 02:18:29,120
on the research or whatever we're

3931
02:18:36,830 --> 02:18:31,760
doing a little more or work on something

3932
02:18:41,589 --> 02:18:38,389
um

3933
02:18:42,389 --> 02:18:41,599
all right friends i uh the boy it's been

3934
02:18:44,309 --> 02:18:42,399
a long day

3935
02:18:46,309 --> 02:18:44,319
i had a lot of fun today because i

3936
02:18:49,349 --> 02:18:46,319
involved my son in this cosmic

3937
02:18:51,030 --> 02:18:49,359
clown project and uh i gotta tell you a

3938
02:18:52,790 --> 02:18:51,040
boy he really liked helping

3939
02:18:54,629 --> 02:18:52,800
you know trying to help me test out the

3940
02:18:56,549 --> 02:18:54,639
puppets and you know

3941
02:18:58,230 --> 02:18:56,559
looks better this way daddy and i and

3942
02:19:00,549 --> 02:18:58,240
he's even lending me his

3943
02:19:01,830 --> 02:19:00,559
his mickey mouse chairs so that we can

3944
02:19:04,389 --> 02:19:01,840
film this thing

3945
02:19:06,309 --> 02:19:04,399
so he's going to be he's four years old

3946
02:19:09,270 --> 02:19:06,319
he's going to be the prop master

3947
02:19:10,389 --> 02:19:09,280
and uh production assistant and you know

3948
02:19:10,950 --> 02:19:10,399
what i think i'm just going to give him

3949
02:19:15,910 --> 02:19:10,960
the title

3950
02:19:19,669 --> 02:19:17,910
oh cheryl says the shirt looks just fine

3951
02:19:20,950 --> 02:19:19,679
i normally wear like dark black shirt

3952
02:19:22,549 --> 02:19:20,960
though and this one's kind of gray and

3953
02:19:23,669 --> 02:19:22,559
it looks weird in the lights or

3954
02:19:25,910 --> 02:19:23,679
i don't know it just looks a little

3955
02:19:28,150 --> 02:19:25,920
weird

3956
02:19:29,349 --> 02:19:28,160
i'm going to go back to turtlenecks uh

3957
02:19:31,589 --> 02:19:29,359
miss cheryl

3958
02:19:35,349 --> 02:19:31,599
turtlenecks is much much easier right

3959
02:19:37,910 --> 02:19:35,359
turtlenecks are just much easier

3960
02:19:39,349 --> 02:19:37,920
so listen friends you know i understand

3961
02:19:41,750 --> 02:19:39,359
some people are not gonna like

3962
02:19:42,790 --> 02:19:41,760
what a guest has to say and i get that

3963
02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:42,800
uh but

3964
02:19:46,549 --> 02:19:44,960
everybody here is welcome everybody gets

3965
02:19:50,389 --> 02:19:46,559
a place at the table

3966
02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:50,399
and uh everybody gets to say their peace

3967
02:19:55,590 --> 02:19:53,120
and uh we can either learn from it

3968
02:19:57,990 --> 02:19:55,600
accept it or or we can reject it

3969
02:20:00,389 --> 02:19:58,000
we all have our own sort of barometer

3970
02:20:02,950 --> 02:20:00,399
for for these things and

3971
02:20:05,110 --> 02:20:02,960
you know listen roswell is a complicated

3972
02:20:06,550 --> 02:20:05,120
situation a complicated case there's so

3973
02:20:08,230 --> 02:20:06,560
many different opinions about what

3974
02:20:10,230 --> 02:20:08,240
crashed at roswell

3975
02:20:11,830 --> 02:20:10,240
we could probably keep this going for a

3976
02:20:14,150 --> 02:20:11,840
while and we may do that

3977
02:20:15,190 --> 02:20:14,160
i want to get as many perspectives as

3978
02:20:17,910 --> 02:20:15,200
possible

3979
02:20:18,309 --> 02:20:17,920
um except for the really out there crazy

3980
02:20:21,349 --> 02:20:18,319
stuff

3981
02:20:22,870 --> 02:20:21,359
like annie jacobson's crazy uh one

3982
02:20:24,950 --> 02:20:22,880
chapter in her book

3983
02:20:26,070 --> 02:20:24,960
where she claimed that joseph stalin

3984
02:20:28,630 --> 02:20:26,080
sent some uh

3985
02:20:30,070 --> 02:20:28,640
genetically modified midgets in a fake

3986
02:20:32,150 --> 02:20:30,080
flying saucer to

3987
02:20:34,150 --> 02:20:32,160
scare us about it you know that some of

3988
02:20:37,030 --> 02:20:34,160
this stuff is just too crazy

3989
02:20:38,630 --> 02:20:37,040
uh there's also something i was made

3990
02:20:40,790 --> 02:20:38,640
aware of a while ago is that there's a

3991
02:20:41,590 --> 02:20:40,800
book written about roswell about some

3992
02:20:43,670 --> 02:20:41,600
nurse that

3993
02:20:46,070 --> 02:20:43,680
interacted with one of the aliens and

3994
02:20:48,550 --> 02:20:46,080
i'm trying to get a hold of that guy

3995
02:20:50,389 --> 02:20:48,560
um i don't find that very credible but

3996
02:20:52,309 --> 02:20:50,399
i'm gonna offer him a spot at the table

3997
02:20:54,070 --> 02:20:52,319
and we'll hear his story and the story

3998
02:20:56,469 --> 02:20:54,080
of this nurse that apparently

3999
02:20:57,990 --> 02:20:56,479
had lengthy conversations with an alien

4000
02:21:00,309 --> 02:20:58,000
telepathically and wrote it all

4001
02:21:02,389 --> 02:21:00,319
down somehow that survived all these

4002
02:21:05,190 --> 02:21:02,399
years and there's a book about it now

4003
02:21:05,830 --> 02:21:05,200
um i'm not sure i'm not sure if that's

4004
02:21:07,750 --> 02:21:05,840
real

4005
02:21:09,429 --> 02:21:07,760
but we'll give him a spot at the table

4006
02:21:10,469 --> 02:21:09,439
and if he if he agrees to come on the

4007
02:21:16,550 --> 02:21:10,479
show we would

4008
02:21:24,230 --> 02:21:20,950
yeah so friends um

4009
02:21:25,670 --> 02:21:24,240
i was trying to think uh tomorrow is no

4010
02:21:26,389 --> 02:21:25,680
show day we're not gonna have a show

4011
02:21:29,670 --> 02:21:26,399
tomorrow

4012
02:21:31,110 --> 02:21:29,680
i'm gonna honor this uh it's it's not a

4013
02:21:34,630 --> 02:21:31,120
religious idea

4014
02:21:37,830 --> 02:21:34,640
mostly it's a you do need a day to just

4015
02:21:39,429 --> 02:21:37,840
rest and relax and recuperate recharge

4016
02:21:41,750 --> 02:21:39,439
your batteries so

4017
02:21:43,590 --> 02:21:41,760
going forward uh i think we're not going

4018
02:21:44,790 --> 02:21:43,600
to have any sunday shows now that may be

4019
02:21:46,309 --> 02:21:44,800
something to change because something

4020
02:21:47,990 --> 02:21:46,319
big could happen tomorrow or i could

4021
02:21:49,510 --> 02:21:48,000
feel very well rested and say let's go

4022
02:21:53,190 --> 02:21:49,520
do a short show

4023
02:21:55,110 --> 02:21:53,200
everything here is subject to change um

4024
02:21:56,870 --> 02:21:55,120
we fly by the scene i fly by the seat of

4025
02:21:59,270 --> 02:21:56,880
my pants i really do

4026
02:22:01,590 --> 02:21:59,280
whatever happens happens uh but i'm

4027
02:22:03,510 --> 02:22:01,600
gonna try at least to take sundays off

4028
02:22:04,230 --> 02:22:03,520
and and spend more time with my children

4029
02:22:06,309 --> 02:22:04,240
and

4030
02:22:07,349 --> 02:22:06,319
get some other things done that are not

4031
02:22:09,349 --> 02:22:07,359
related to the show

4032
02:22:11,110 --> 02:22:09,359
because lately i've been feeling like i

4033
02:22:12,469 --> 02:22:11,120
i'm always doing something for the show

4034
02:22:14,469 --> 02:22:12,479
whether it's research or

4035
02:22:15,590 --> 02:22:14,479
calling potential guests or trying to

4036
02:22:19,110 --> 02:22:15,600
book guests or

4037
02:22:20,950 --> 02:22:19,120
doing this um the production work

4038
02:22:22,710 --> 02:22:20,960
i have recently found that i really

4039
02:22:25,349 --> 02:22:22,720
enjoy this production work

4040
02:22:27,190 --> 02:22:25,359
making the intros the outros making

4041
02:22:29,030 --> 02:22:27,200
music for the show

4042
02:22:30,950 --> 02:22:29,040
we're trying our very best to increase

4043
02:22:32,309 --> 02:22:30,960
the production value of the show i want

4044
02:22:35,190 --> 02:22:32,319
the show to look better

4045
02:22:37,190 --> 02:22:35,200
to sound better uh and there's some a

4046
02:22:39,429 --> 02:22:37,200
few people have had an issue with my mic

4047
02:22:40,950 --> 02:22:39,439
i'm still gonna work on that i gotta

4048
02:22:43,830 --> 02:22:40,960
look i even got it i gotta

4049
02:22:45,030 --> 02:22:43,840
where did i got it i got it i got i got

4050
02:22:48,309 --> 02:22:45,040
new light

4051
02:22:50,230 --> 02:22:48,319
yeah that's gonna sort of sit

4052
02:22:51,990 --> 02:22:50,240
right in front of me even though i don't

4053
02:22:55,429 --> 02:22:52,000
like that you know

4054
02:22:56,870 --> 02:22:55,439
uh to try to improve the audio

4055
02:23:00,389 --> 02:22:56,880
i mean most people said it's been good

4056
02:23:03,270 --> 02:23:00,399
but i think a few people

4057
02:23:03,990 --> 02:23:03,280
have had issue with the audio there's

4058
02:23:07,110 --> 02:23:04,000
always an audio

4059
02:23:08,230 --> 02:23:07,120
file in every audience you know uh for

4060
02:23:11,270 --> 02:23:08,240
most people i think

4061
02:23:13,349 --> 02:23:11,280
the sound is sufficient you know but

4062
02:23:18,630 --> 02:23:13,359
we'll try our best to improve it

4063
02:23:20,389 --> 02:23:18,640
um we'll continue to try to do that

4064
02:23:22,469 --> 02:23:20,399
so i want to thank my very special guest

4065
02:23:24,070 --> 02:23:22,479
tonight walter bosley who i always enjoy

4066
02:23:26,070 --> 02:23:24,080
talking to i think he has a very

4067
02:23:27,429 --> 02:23:26,080
unique perspective on some of these

4068
02:23:29,270 --> 02:23:27,439
things

4069
02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:29,280
and and i always have a good

4070
02:23:33,270 --> 02:23:31,120
conversation with him after all

4071
02:23:35,190 --> 02:23:33,280
he was a special agent how could it not

4072
02:23:36,070 --> 02:23:35,200
be fun talking to an air force special

4073
02:23:39,990 --> 02:23:36,080
agent right

4074
02:23:41,990 --> 02:23:40,000
well office of special investigations um

4075
02:23:43,910 --> 02:23:42,000
but you know it is interesting to me to

4076
02:23:46,070 --> 02:23:43,920
actually talk to a guy that has

4077
02:23:47,429 --> 02:23:46,080
real top secret clearance and see what i

4078
02:23:49,030 --> 02:23:47,439
could you know did you notice that

4079
02:23:51,590 --> 02:23:49,040
during the interview though i tried to

4080
02:23:52,950 --> 02:23:51,600
pull some top secret stuff out of him

4081
02:23:56,150 --> 02:23:52,960
and he was pretty hesitant

4082
02:23:57,429 --> 02:23:56,160
right maybe he's got some mbas

4083
02:24:00,150 --> 02:23:57,439
and he can't talk about some of that

4084
02:24:01,990 --> 02:24:00,160
stuff or who knows

4085
02:24:03,349 --> 02:24:02,000
um well friends i want to thank you all

4086
02:24:04,389 --> 02:24:03,359
for joining us especially all the new

4087
02:24:06,550 --> 02:24:04,399
people please do

4088
02:24:08,950 --> 02:24:06,560
uh show up again our next show will be

4089
02:24:12,070 --> 02:24:08,960
monday night at 8 pm

4090
02:24:14,630 --> 02:24:12,080
uh and i'll announce more about that

4091
02:24:16,230 --> 02:24:14,640
either later tonight or tomorrow uh but

4092
02:24:20,389 --> 02:24:16,240
monday is going to be a really fun

4093
02:24:23,590 --> 02:24:20,399
show so friends until next time

4094
02:24:25,190 --> 02:24:23,600
uh i always say this i'm always happy

4095
02:24:26,469 --> 02:24:25,200
when there's an audience and i want to

4096
02:24:29,030 --> 02:24:26,479
thank you all for

4097
02:24:30,309 --> 02:24:29,040
being a part of mine tonight it's really

4098
02:24:31,750 --> 02:24:30,319
my pleasure

4099
02:24:33,910 --> 02:24:31,760
listen i would have talked to walter

4100
02:24:35,990 --> 02:24:33,920
bosley about all this whether anybody

4101
02:24:38,230 --> 02:24:36,000
was watching or listening or not

4102
02:24:40,389 --> 02:24:38,240
but the show gives me an opportunity to

4103
02:24:42,950 --> 02:24:40,399
take all of you on that journey with me

4104
02:24:44,309 --> 02:24:42,960
and i'm so glad that i get to do that so

4105
02:25:00,330 --> 02:24:44,319
until next time friends

4106
02:25:00,340 --> 02:25:08,830
[Music]

4107
02:25:08,840 --> 02:25:16,390
so

4108
02:25:16,400 --> 02:25:22,830
[Music]

4109
02:25:36,830 --> 02:25:24,370
so

4110
02:25:38,160 --> 02:25:36,840
[Music]

4111
02:25:50,830 --> 02:25:38,170
so

4112
02:26:06,320 --> 02:25:50,840
[Music]

4113
02:26:09,320 --> 02:26:06,330
so

4114
02:26:11,010 --> 02:26:09,330
[Music]

4115
02:26:18,830 --> 02:26:11,020
[Applause]

4116
02:26:21,700 --> 02:26:18,840
[Music]

4117
02:26:24,840 --> 02:26:21,710
so

4118
02:26:24,950 --> 02:26:24,850
[Music]